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05-15-2009 , 02:38 PM
If you don't need ritalin it cracks you out hardcore.... it has its own way of policing its users.
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05-15-2009 , 02:42 PM
Was the matusow book any good or did he just tell the usaul story, started video poker lost a lot of money, went to jail did drugs, played the best poker still lost, im depressed, your all donks?
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05-15-2009 , 02:48 PM
If you drug tested 9 poker players at the final table of a WSOP tourney, They would disqualify at least 70%. Drugs are good for poker, Most of the drugs taken by poker players make them worse at the game. For example pot, Pot may the the greatest thing ever to come out of the ground of the earth, but it doesn't exactly make you the focused player you should be in a WSOP tourney.

What drugs should you test for? would you rather play with a final table of strung out coke addicts and pot heads or focused good poker players? I say there needs to be more drugs in poker! they should hand out joints and lines of coke to players at the WSOP that want it, I would make allot more money!
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05-15-2009 , 02:48 PM
thats why he s doiing 'so ghood'
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05-15-2009 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cking
coming from someone who has played with him several times and is normally harsh about live pros, he's def on one of the best i've played with
Just a case of good fashion ribbing, just like how he used to consider people like HOSS_TBF "internet donkeys". He actually plays pretty decently on HSP and I'm always (silently) rooting for the guy; seems like he's life-stuck. Hopefully he goes deep in the WSOP, gets a roll, and becomes another FTP sicko! Also cking, what game did you play him in? People say he's a beast limit player.
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05-15-2009 , 03:01 PM
lol, c'mon op.
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05-15-2009 , 03:09 PM
This reminds me of the scene in Entourage when the boys convince Turtle that the XBox tournament was doing drug testing. "This is Xbox idiot, if we drug tested, we'd be out of business."
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05-15-2009 , 03:11 PM
Drug screening? Who says, "Alright, Champ, just a couple hits from the pipe and I'll take this 10K down ez game!"
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05-15-2009 , 03:12 PM
you should reread his book OP, I know Mike well and he doesn't take ritalin anymore due to bad side effects, he takes adderall for his ADHD
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05-15-2009 , 03:45 PM
extacy imo
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05-15-2009 , 03:50 PM
I've played only tournies with him, i was at his table on day 1 of the main event (the feature table) for like 3hrs but they never even showed me at the table. Also played with him on day 2 and a bunch of times in random prelims and WPTs
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05-15-2009 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by herebigfishy
What drugs should you test for? would you rather play with a final table of strung out coke addicts and pot heads or focused good poker players? I say there needs to be more drugs in poker! they should hand out joints and lines of coke to players at the WSOP that want it, I would make allot more money!
Are you a dealer?
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05-15-2009 , 04:28 PM
ban OP for whatever he is smoking
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05-15-2009 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted J
you should reread his book OP, I know Mike well and he doesn't take ritalin anymore due to bad side effects, he takes adderall for his ADHD
isnt adderal = methylphenidate too? certainly felt the same the time i tried it.
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05-15-2009 , 04:57 PM
This is a great first post, I hope u are feeling the love!!!!!
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05-15-2009 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ENOUGH ALREADY
Are you a dealer?
are you stupid?
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05-15-2009 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by luegofuego
isnt adderal = methylphenidate too? certainly felt the same the time i tried it.
adderall(sp?) is an amphetamine
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05-15-2009 , 07:32 PM
drugs can never overcome the overall level of human ******ation when it comes to poker
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05-15-2009 , 07:33 PM
Whether its adderal or ritalin - it does not really matter - the point is that without either he would lose or break even - with them he wins. By his own admission - without them he sees only the cards - with the medication he sees so much more.
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05-15-2009 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Redhotpoker
Mike admits dozens of times throughout his book that taking the "Ritalin" prescribed by his doctor for his ADHD (Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) gives him a huge edge whilst playing poker. He says the drug elevates his consciousness and sustains his focus at superhuman levels for long periods which gives him the ability to do so well. He takes this drug legally and regularly now and is making big money.
Taking any form of mind altering chemical - legal or illegal- in the tournament surely arena gives those with them in their system an unfair edge over those self medicating with blueberries , yoga or just a good nights sleep so I think we should demand routine drug screening before awards of final table bracelets and money at the WSOP. If you read what Mikey says and then start thinking about some of the characters who have made their fame and fortune when they might have been "enhanced" isnt it a very unfair playing field for 7 weeks of what is a mind sport .
I dont believe it is fair that somebody who has an illness is given a medicine which can elevate their poker game to a standard which cannot be attained unless they are ill. By all means allow him to be medicated to lead a happy normal life but is the diagnosis of this condition a through ticket to $$$$$$$$$$$ .
LOL This has to a level.
No one is that stupid.

Last edited by Willy; 05-15-2009 at 07:55 PM. Reason: had something to add
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05-15-2009 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Vitamin11
are you stupid?
Quiet in the cheap seats!
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05-15-2009 , 08:07 PM
I have 2 degen friends who buy ritalin before playing the Thursday night $30 home game. Needless to say it's hard to have a conversation with them since they are so focused. They are like dogs watching squirrels.
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05-15-2009 , 08:52 PM
i'm sure if you talked to them they'd be happy to engage in conversation... when i'm on the stuff i want to talk to everyone i see lol.
seriously though Ritalin is a wonder drug. it's not like a fun thing but it helps me do better in school! it makes you alot more productive too. typing is faster, easier and a paper that would normally take 2 hrs working normally can be finished in like 30 mins

the wsop (or anything really) would not ban someone for taking drugs that are prescribed to them.
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05-15-2009 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Redhotpoker
Whether its adderal or ritalin - it does not really matter - the point is that without either he would lose or break even - with them he wins. By his own admission - without them he sees only the cards - with the medication he sees so much more.
so, what part of him being prescibed the drugs and needs them to focus like the rest of us didn't you understand?

did mike make any final tables or win any tournaments without the drugs?

did he win any with the drugs? please specify which ones for both cases.


my guess is it would be a pretty random result. keep in mind payouts now compared to 10-15 years ago are alot more.
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05-15-2009 , 09:32 PM
but with the drugs he focusses so much BETTER than the rest of us - that is the whole point . Yes he has an illness - noone is suggesting he has good health but why should he be able to profit at expense of well (non medicated ) players
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