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03-24-2017 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Knott
I think it's similar to street protests. Politicians do not resign because people are angry, they do it because of the pressure protests create, the support the competition gets.
Imagine a street protest about a topic that only a small percentage of the population care about. Now the organizers of the protest think that because the issue is really bad for those couple people, they can get a large percentage of said affected people to participate in their protest. Unfortunately, in the end only a small percentage of the small percentage participates.

So instead of creating pressure, the protest creates the exact opposite by showing the powers how little people really care enough about the issue. That's not really a good thing..

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Originally Posted by davmcg
If their poker action continues to decline the non-poker action will also. Hopefully the folly of degrading their poker product will then become apparent.
It's hard to tell because unless you are really on the inside, you have to rely on information given by third parties. But what I've been told is that Amaya is pretty happy about how far they've already gotten with converting players to lower-skill games and eventually no-skill games. To them it doesn't matter if they get a casual poker player to switch to casino games or to non-skill poker games. Apparently, lots of people inside were sceptical about even getting people from SNGs to Spin-and-Gos and that is considered a big success now. But again, that's only what I've been told by third parties and I certainly wouldn't vouch for that information being true.
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03-24-2017 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Is that something like alternative facts?

You might be the first person to say "I want to watch day 1 of random event XYZ but won't because they don't show hole cards".

The number of casual players to watch anything other than maybe final 3 tables for everything other than the WSOP ME is very small. I wouldn't be surprised if Amaya soon stopped showing anything other than final tables.
How do you know they can't grow that audience though? Do you think high stakes poker would have been as successfu without hole cards? Don't get the negativity, I guarantee more people watch with hole cards than without. Twitch has a whole new audience of youngsters who could potentially watch.
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03-24-2017 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy_Tomich969
Don't get the negativity, I guarantee more people watch with hole cards than without.
I don't disagree with that. All I'm saying is that if I had to put my money on either "Amaya is going to spend more money and provide hole cards for all live broadcasts" or "Amaya is going to continue to cut costs by broadcasting only final tables", I'd for sure take #2.
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03-25-2017 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LUCIUS VARENUS
Vicky Coren was right to get out when she did. That's somebody with real integrity.
The reason she got out was not because pokerstars was not acting...erm...without integrity, but because they were offering blackjack. Personally I have nothing against pokerstars regarding them offering blackjack so I could care less about Vicki Coren's stand.

Last edited by rakemeplz; 03-25-2017 at 12:05 AM. Reason: could be wrong but whatever i could care less
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03-25-2017 , 05:32 AM
so you actually care more than you could?
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