Why don't poker players do this more. Seems like many of them go like "oh well it happens" when they get bent over for $300k or something like that. I guess they just don't document these kind of things but that is actually even more crazy.

I assume neither party wants to take this to court and I expect this to be settled pretty quickly. I don't see a reason for this guy to risk damaging his reputation and business over something this little (to him).

i dont know what happened here but in my experience in the poker world some people are just bad at paying debts no matter how rich they are

especially if they think they played a game where you clearly had an edge on them so they think its ok to delay the payment since they "donated" you the money

again, I dont know Leon, he seems to be a nice guy on interviews Im just talking about my experience with other people

Simple math.

The heads-up game only continues if Matt lends Leon the money to play. So the question for Matt is if he's expected to win more money from playing than he risks from Leon not paying back.

finally a decent scandal for NVG. I like leon, im a fan of aussie Matt. In before Czech mobsters pay Matt a visit

the dumbest thing Matt could do is trying to sue Leon lol

Matt is Aussie, Leon is Czech and theres no way to prove that Matt really gave Leon the money, theres no formal contract involved

so Nevada laws have nothing to do here, Nevada law cant force Leon to pay a cent

probably Leon was planning to pay Matt on his casino, giving him chips there, usually thats what poker room owners do when they lose money

but now after suing I bet Matt wont receive anything, you dont want to be an enemy of someone who owns you money lol thats basic stuff in the poker world

4:34 AM - first loan of 500.000

5:07 AM - second loan of 500.000

5:22 AM - third loan of 1.000.000

5:46 AM - fourth loan of 1.000.000

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thats was a hell of a game lol

very short time between loans

probably both were going allin every hand

maybe one of them was drunk though

All this thread needs is some drugs and Yayo and it is going to be going head to head for NVG thread of the year.

I disagree, there are sources of evidence, aside from the Plaintiff's statements, which would be probative of whether some transactions took place:

1. The game was played at the Aria, so tapes likely exist. Not to mention the Aria personnel who were working the game, floor or surveillance.
2. The Aria certainly can provide evidence of "some" transactions, both the game and issuance of chips would be regulated. Cue Gaming and FinCEN if there is "no way to prove" how Leon got the chips he lost to Matt or how Mat was able to cash out. (I suspect that chips were likely passed over at the time of the alleged loans, rather than new cash being passed and more chips bought.)

Nevada laws certainly apply as the alleged transactions were done in Nevada.

Filing a Complaint and successfully serving a named Defendant are different things.

Interesting story to watch develop, if there is service of the complaint and a defendant reply or motion to dismiss filed.

I practice law here. I don't know what the law is in the Czech Republic or Australia or wherever you are posting from, but I suspect the elements of an agreement were sufficiently alleged under the laws in this State.

Leon is hard working man, maybe he just forgot.

1. Source for time stamps above ?

2. The first stirrings of a defense

the source is the image OP posted, these infos are on one of the pages there, this one exactly: http://i.imgur.com/2uMuoJe.jpg

about your other post, Aria has images of course which can prove that Matt gave Leon the chips but you cant prove that this was a loan operation, what were the terms of loan etc, it only proves that Matt gave Leon chips, nothing more than that

also Nevada has no ways to force Leon anything unless Leon has some bank account in Nevada which I think is not the case

when it comes do Poker World debts suing is always the worst option to receive the money

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You mean this story?

https://www.pokertube.com/article/th...n-euro-welcher

yes, adding to that the fact that the source of the story posted on 2p2 and (indirectly) confirmed that "L" was Leon.

According to Scott Seiver there is a big game running right now. Can someone go over to Bellagio and snap a pic of the lineup?

Thanks, I had not read the entire Complaint through and thought you might be citing more than the Plaintiff's allegations. (Given the specificity of the pleading, it seems likely there is corroborating evidence of the timing set out in the pleadings. Chesnoff plays poker, such specificity in pleading was no unsupported bluff.)

The Rules of Evidence would permit all sorts of testimony which possibly could establish a series of loans and the terms, especially if it is established that Mat transferred chips to Leon.

This matter is a long way from entry of judgment and probably will never get to that point, but a valid judgment properly entered in Nevada likely can be enforced elsewhere by the judgment creditor, (not "Nevada" btw) , outside the State if the proper procedures are followed wherever "elsewhere" may be.

https://iclg.com/practice-areas/enfo...czech-republic

There are specific defenses of course....

"a participant in the proceedings, with regard to whom the judgment is to be recognised, was not allowed by procedures of a foreign authority to participate in the proceedings before this foreign authority, especially if no summons or the motion to commence the proceedings was delivered to the participant"

Don't get ahead of yourself, has the Defendant been properly served ? (Posting in NVG is not sufficient.)

Hard to believe that, unless he is playing a 6max game with 5 half-******ed orangutans who are drunk or asleep all the time

It all started with a small loan of 3 million dollars.

The images from Aria camera really means ZERO here because Leon gave back all the chips to Matt (Matt gave the chips and some minutes after that Leon gave Matt back losing in the game)

Since its a Headsup match you just cant prove what were the terms and rules of that game

If the image was showing Leon taking the chips from Matt and leaving would be a lot easier to use the images to prove the loan

Since Matt gave the chips and after some minutes Leon gave back the chips you cant prove anything with the images

What position do the Nevada courts tend to adopt on oral agreements and where specific terms of repayment do not exist in writing? I am presuming nothing is in writing given that the suit does not make reference to an executed written agreement between the parties outlining all terms, to include when payment was due. Instead, reference is made to the transaction allegedly being preserved on video...

Nevada court ruling an oral agreement between a person from Australia and other from Czech Republic is 100% non sense

lol 'gave back'

Stop posting, you obviously have zero clue concerning law.

The one with zero clue actually is you

Just seems like laziness or stupidity on Leon's part if he actually has the money. I guess you doesn't have to worry as much about a tainted reputation when you're not gambling for income though.