KGC Releases Final UB Scandal Decision - Page 6 - Poker News

Hadis · 09-12-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by marija68

For those of you boy-cotting/banning/not playing on UB or Absolute, check out what one of the regs at is doing, while the good players grind and battle with each other on Stars or Full-Tilt

BAN UB! HAHAHAH

Must be someone from the "new management"

Bdidd · 09-12-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by egj

A post on pokerati.com claims to have information on why no names other than Russ Hamilton are being released:

Bull****, there would be nothing at all wrong with indicating that the accounts responsible for the cheating were registered to a certain individual. That way, they would not be giving any potentially false information. Indicating who these cheating accounts were registered to would not speficially indicate that said person was responsible for the cheating. Problem solved. No possibility of civil suits if you tell the truth.

Bdidd · 09-12-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by _And1_

This makes sense even thou we rather would have the names dropped.

No it really doesn't for the reasons I mentioned earlier. This reeks of BS.

detroitwinsthecup · 09-12-2009, 10:40 PM

first AP now ultimate bet...wtf is going on here...

detroitwinsthecup · 09-12-2009, 10:40 PM

...when it comes to online poker i guess noone can be safe lol

molinn9 · 09-12-2009, 11:17 PM

Names needed here we need those 31 names.

Nick Rivers · 09-12-2009, 11:58 PM

Nice read, barryg. Nice read.

scarface-79 · 09-13-2009, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DeNutza

So it looks like they determined who they "thought" were cheating
by player-player transfers...The hand histories truly have been
permanently deleted which is unfortunate to say the least.

Thats why they couldnt even state which games (limit/NL/etc) were
actually cheated.

I propped on UB for many years up to 30-60...There is no way in hell
I wasnt cheated and still havent recieved a dime...If any props/hosts
have received a refund for limit holdem or omaha8, please PM me.

i want my refund from 50-100 hu limit holdem also, otherwise UB/AP can always burn in hell

DonPope · 09-13-2009, 09:26 AM

with all the guns and psychos in the USA, how is Russ still walking around?

apefish · 09-13-2009, 11:08 AM

I love that it's 20+ months going on this thing since the HSNL guys dug into it, the KGC releases a "final report", and in it they state they don't want to possibly accuse innocent people or unneccesarily alarm them to compromise possible further investigation because they aren't sure of the nature of things but here's that Russ Hamilton bone again so chew on that.

nice finality clownshoes.

zero credibility.

trenbrothers · 09-13-2009, 01:22 PM

Ub could have settled this once and for all, but they've failed miserably..

Stake Monster · 09-13-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by matt12341

I can't see Hellmuth wanting to cheat simply as he has enough money.

are you new to the human race? we're greedy ****s and the more we have the more we want.

swoosh3esq · 09-13-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mookman5

I agree for the most part. However, as Paul Leggett has said, this could not have happened unless in was an inside job. So, the KGC an UB both know who some of the "for sure" guilty people are. Most likely some UB employees or hopefully former employees who helped the cheaters.

I disagree. There needs to be 100% full disclosure of all discovery that the gaming commission reviewed either directly or indirectly through its agents. If there were transfers between Hamilton and others that were legitimate, why would anyone involved in those transactions be concerned?

RolloTomasi · 09-13-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bdidd

Bull****, there would be nothing at all wrong with indicating that the accounts responsible for the cheating were registered to a certain individual. That way, they would not be giving any potentially false information. Indicating who these cheating accounts were registered to would not speficially indicate that said person was responsible for the cheating. Problem solved. No possibility of civil suits if you tell the truth.

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Originally Posted by molinn9

Names needed here we need those 31 names.

AP cheaters used dead accounts to play UB cheats proly did the same because it started at UB and spead to AP the only way to find out who the cheaters are is follow the money - whoever has the stolen money are the cheaters - 99% sure UB will never give up that info which is buried in the Kahnwake graveyard now kahnwake is shielding UB
maybe barryg can water board Russ

kk405 · 09-13-2009, 11:40 PM

I wonder if there is any pro out there who still thinks Russell Hamilton is not guilty...