You not trying to fool anyone would be you saying

'I want more ladies events because they're softer and I want to win money'. Not what you wrote. You would be forgiven for putting a spin on it when emailing Pokerstars, obviously. I understand why you won't admit it, but everyone knows you're thinking it.

You say you think these things help to grow the game. It's pure speculation though. Women have had since 2003 to get into online poker. Newsflash: Poker is dead or dying for everyone. And if it's dead for the rest of us, it's sure as hell dead for women, who historically have never been that interested in it. We all want to see more people playing the game, but trying to address the customer base of a dying industry by gender balance when the gender in question has never responded too well = losing proposition IMO.

'Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.' - Poker (2015)

Why do I feel like it's mostly Americans itt? Where I live no one cares about forcing equality at all costs nearly as much as you guys do. I don't really understand why women like having a separate online tournament but if they do I have zero problems with it.

Most of these guys met each other online through 2+2, & other poker forums and 2+2 alrdy has a female section, you really telling me that guys chatted it up at the poker tables, became friends n decided to meet up at wsop etc?, really?.

Despite its relevancy, I'll avoid the “how women are treated in at the table” topic – any discussion of gender-based hostility I've personally experienced playing online/live will only confirm the beliefs of those already against it, or go over the heads of those that believe that such hostilities aren't harmful or are too rare to be relevant.

As many have correctly pointed out, the reason businesses market towards under-represented demographics is because they see an opportunity for growth. Women are by far and large the most under-represented demographic in poker. As such, poker companies like Stars, WSOP etc make the correct business decision to target these groups in ways they find to be most effective, which include women's-only events and community blogs.

In an ideal world, there would be no need to market mental-only disciplines such as poker to women – but despite massive reductions of gender stereotyping and inequality over the decades we are still a long way off reaching those ideal equal female/male ratios. And what if “over-marketing” those disciplines could actually speed up the arrival of that ideal-ratio world? Prohibiting over-marketing could then be detrimental to that cause. Obviously, this is assuming your ideal poker world has more than an average of 0.7 women per poker table...

So taking a strong stance against women's events implies a personal value system that prefers sticking to a strict and arguably limiting moral ideology over a practical solution that grows poker. Whether that value system is correct or not is down to the individual's goals; most notably their opinion of whether the player base needs to grow. It just surprises me that so many people who actively engage in a poker forum would argue in that direction, especially when it's an ideology that only practically applies to a world that doesn't exist yet, and a world that could probably be faster reached by adopting some unequal marketing methods.

yep

Do you find it ironic that no one has benefited more from "sexism" in poker more than yourself?

Why would that be ironic, even if true? If you get a sponsorship contract in part for being an attractive female, you then lose all right to make statements on equality?

Actually, she didnt even make much of a statement on equality, mostly on explaining the reasoning for marketing poker towards women in the way that sites/casinos do.

All I know is Liv Boeree steals before she splits.

Just having a little fun.

I do agree with her that Poker sites should be fighting even harder to get women to log in and play. I think the biggest hurdle is just getting women to try the game. Once a player (man or woman) gives the game a shot they can then decide to stick around or not. That first exposure is what's lacking for many women.

I'm all for Womens only tourneys sporadically both live and online as it can be a great icebreaker.
I think legit great women players should be getting a far bigger platform in both the poker media and online sites marketing to attract more females to the game. I don't think using "good looking" women to market poker is going to attract many females as they can't change their look so it doesn't do much to attract females. Highlighting the poker accomplishments of women on the felt (Selbst is a good example) can show an uninformed woman what can be accomplished in the poker world.

The fact is that most women don't like poker. Stars knows this and as a result has made the business decision to focus its marketing dollars on its key demographic.

Signing Japanese team pros because they are Japanese is now racist.

yup

No 5bn company is spending 100% of their marketing and retention budget only on their core demo, that would be incredibly sub optimal.

From an email February 20th announcing the date change for the Sunday Million $9m GTD:

Regarding the date change for the $9 Million 9th Anniversary Sunday Million, International Women's Day for many countries is like Mothers Day and Valentines Day combined and even bigger than that.

There's no way RussiaStars would've made the $9M Guarantee without the date change.

Agree, although the dollars previously spent on PokerStars Women does not necessarily go to core-demo retention, but rather toward another underrepped, untapped market (e.g. Japan). But yeah, I get that your post is a rebuttal to the previous poster.

At risk of derailing, do daily fantasy sports get sizable participation from women?

Yes, when someone makes rape threats, you should "suck it up and get used to it".

Can you please explain what differentiates you from a worthless piece of ****, because it's really not clear to me.

Some posts really highlight the need for a like button.

No. Fanduel is about 5%. I'd be surprised if FE gives you much different numbers for DK. Season-long is apparently quite higher (>20%).

This is regarding fantasy sports, right? You probably should've quoted that post as I had no idea what you were talking about

you know its the internet right. where people tell you to get cancer and die in grease fires for giving out a bad beat. where dick pics and hitler memes on 12 year old streams are fine and dandy

rape is not some horrific thing that is worse than everything else possible in the world. "rape threats" where some 14 years old tells a female streamer they will rape her do not constitute exceptional abuse in the internet world.

rofl so many white knights in this world who still think women are flowers that need to be protected

Pokerstars is actually classy, in the way that they don't advertise with "sexy women" on their site.

This is precisely why I tore apart the girl who came in here complaining about it. There are women who get actually raped, and that's an awful thing. Yet stupid internet trollettes feel like it's okay to come in here to steal and dilute sympathy from those actual victims of rape/sexual abuse, because of things that are trivially related to actual abuse might happen to them either on the internet or in the general protection of the public.

There aren't really any relevant parallels to be drawn from what happens to females in poker and sexual abuse. If it were possible to keep these conversations within the lines of reality and keep it about sexual harassment instead of sexual abuse more people here might take it seriously.