Jungleman offering 2012 WSOP ME seat for "good deeds" - Page 4 - Poker News

caseycjc · 05-22-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyPanic

Anything that promotes kindness and positivity without any negative consequences is a thumbs up from me.

Agree

bronx bomber · 05-22-2012, 06:03 PM

I can't wait to see Girah's winning submission.

**Mike Johnson** · 05-22-2012, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by adamsj

No need to be a prissy bitch because a 22 y/o has 10k to give away and you don't.

Let's be honest, he's not giving it away. He's using the 10K seat as a PR tool to help restore an image that has taken a couple hits over the past year. It's a smart play and he's obviously calculated the value of that into his promotion. If he was just giving money away he wouldn't be posting videoblogs on Party Poker about it.

vergere · 05-22-2012, 06:13 PM

I have never multiaccounted and I did not help someone become "poker famous" in order fpr that individual to scam the poker community. Does this make me less or more likely to win this contest?

I hope a decent person wins the seat.

SMUTTTT · 05-22-2012, 06:14 PM

I dont think necessarily that he has done a prognosis on this wrt the benefits he might gain from doing it, i recognize that this is not What you implied Mike, these are merely my thoughts on the matter, but im not sure that he is expecting to somehow get the 10k and more back

Riina · 05-22-2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SGT RJ

Well I mean if someone were to actually cheat (pretend to do good deeds strictly for this contest) they would be pretty awful people, IMO.

My point was more that people seem to be saying that if player A went out and did a legit good deed and taped it purely for the purpose of this contest (say, helped build a house for someone whose home was destroyed by a hurricane) that because that good deed was tainted by some other motivation it's not still a good deed.

A good deed is a good deed, and most people get some sort of reward (even if that reward is just a warm fuzzy feeling) for doing good deeds anyway. Having the chance to win a WSOP ME seat is only different in degree, not principle.

IMO.

i don't think anybody would disagree that anything with a positive outcome could be a bad thing.

Personally however, my value for a deed is not only, if hardly, made up by its exact outcome. I value a person with an income of a $1000 who donates a $100 truly to help other people out a lot more, than a billionaire who donates a million because it gives him good PR. Even though the million sorts a thousand times the result of the measly $100. That doesn't mean the million donation is to be considered worthless though, far from it. But the value and the result of a good deed are two seperate things for me.

PokahAllday · 05-22-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Johnson

Let's be honest, he's not giving it away. He's using the 10K seat as a PR tool to help restore an image that has taken a couple hits over the past year. It's a smart play and he's obviously calculated the value of that into his promotion. If he was just giving money away he wouldn't be posting videoblogs on Party Poker about it.

To help his image lol. You can't be serious. Jungleman's image was never tainted. Only on 2+2. So this theory of yours is way off base. People love jungleman. The last time he was on tv all his peers liked him as well. The guy is a 22 year old star. A young adult will make mistakes in his life. Not too many people know about his mistake. Only trolls want to always bring up the past, you and most sound like all my x girlfriends. Always complaining about the past. Let it go, the guy is giving away a me seat for the second year in a row. We need more pros like him. I think every pro should give away a seat every year. I know I would.

the4bettingmonk · 05-22-2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Johnson

Let's be honest, he's not giving it away. He's using the 10K seat as a PR tool to help restore an image that has taken a couple hits over the past year. It's a smart play and he's obviously calculated the value of that into his promotion. If he was just giving money away he wouldn't be posting videoblogs on Party Poker about it.

wow

robhimself · 05-22-2012, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PokahAllday

To help his image lol. You can't be serious. Jungleman's image was never tainted. Only on 2+2. So this theory of yours is way off base. People love jungleman. The last time he was on tv all his peers liked him as well. The guy is a 22 year old star. A young adult will make mistakes in his life. Not too many people know about his mistake. Only trolls want to always bring up the past, you and most sound like all my x girlfriends. Always complaining about the past. Let it go, the guy is giving away a me seat for the second year in a row. We need more pros like him. I think every pro should give away a seat every year. I know I would.

Can I rob you? Once you report it to the police you obviously won't testify against me in court a month later, since it's all just in the past.

Mikeofreak · 05-22-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by robhimself

When 12th century philosopher Maimonides wrote his list of the 8 levels of charitable giving, it appears that he completely forgot "when donations are given in order to try to win a $10k main event seat from a guy trying to repair his image in the poker community after a huge scandal." Where would you say it goes?

What a stupid philosopher.

PokahAllday · 05-22-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by robhimself

Can I rob you? Once you report it to the police you obviously won't testify against me in court a month later, since it's all just in the past.

You're right I would call the police on you. But I wouldn't testify in court.

robhimself · 05-22-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PokahAllday

You're right I would call the police on you. But I wouldn't testify in court.

Well it depends on your definition of the past. Should you instantly forget about everything the second it happens? When is the official cutoff for forgiving people for transgressing? It seems like your philosophy is "forget about the past as long as it's convenient for my argument."

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Originally Posted by Mikeofreak

What a stupid philosopher.

You're a stupid philosopher Sorosky.

oakley77 · 05-22-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alien_my_Arse

I agree 100%

This is nice and all but seems attention whorish to me.

Good Deed = keep your mouth shut.

I wouldnt say a good deed means you have to keep your mouth shut about it. You can do plenty of good deeds but just for the wrong reasons, for self gain of course which stands out the most. But if you really want to do a noble act out of the good of your heart, you do not do it for any kind of self gain but purely for the intrinsic value of the act itself.

I think jungleman's heart is in the right place as it encourages a lot of people to go and do some good in the world, even if it is just for a $10,000 seat to the main

BraveJayhawk · 05-22-2012, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SGT RJ

I mean I would never make a video detailing my volunteer work otherwise. I didn't and don't volunteer my time for any recognition, I do it because I believe I should try to help out in some way.

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Reaper421 · 05-22-2012, 07:23 PM

I don't see why anyone would criticize this, it's not like he said whoever beats up the most hobos get a seat. Awesome idea and very generous of him, how many other pros are giving away $13,000~ just to give an up and coming player a chance at their dream?