Jungleman offering 2012 WSOP ME seat for "good deeds" - Page 2 - Poker News

razztapes · 05-22-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SGT RJ

I mean I would never make a video detailing my volunteer work otherwise. I didn't and don't volunteer my time for any recognition, I do it because I believe I should try to help out in some way.

But if that's the criteria for this competition, it doesn't seem bad. People who have been volunteering/doing good deeds until now won't have any trouble making a short video of that, and maybe a few people will do some charity work just to enter the competition. Sure, that's a motive in their own self-interest, but someone else will still benefit.

I'll be happy for the winner in any event.

I think it's easy to be cynical about this type of thing but if in the end one really happy person gets to fulfill a poker dream and a few other people do good deeds they might not have otherwise done, it's really a win win.

ICWUDT

EZX · 05-22-2012, 11:07 AM

amazing idea

Hitch-22 · 05-22-2012, 11:12 AM

Remember guyz, Jungleman is a 'sociopath' so probably doesn't have a standard definition of what constitutes a good deed....

also, tautology?

Stake Monster · 05-22-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Johnson

Doesn't the 'reward' and the 'filming for Youtube' sort of drain the sincerity from a good deed. Certainly the recipient of said deed will still benefit, but when the whole purpose for the good deed existing in the first place is a) potential financial gain for the deed performer b) self-promotion for the award giver(Jungleman) it seems a little off.

I never thought good samaritans plotted, strategized and filmed being good samaritan's, they just were. In fact, doesn't a 'good deed' by definition require sacrifice, not personal gain?

I'm probably wrong here but first thing that popped into my head.

Exactly my thoughts. The idea is nice and it's cool that he's doing it, but the video submission could be changed to something different. That being said, I have nothing better to suggest right now except that perhaps the videos should be submitted by relatives/friends of the person who does do a lot of good in the world.

Josef · 05-22-2012, 11:19 AM

Who will be the best liar of 2012?

d0nk3y · 05-22-2012, 11:21 AM

He should pay back the players he cheated and then give himself the seat.

browser2920 · 05-22-2012, 11:56 AM

I thought I might have a shot, but the POTUS won't release the video of me shooting OBL.

tommyg8 · 05-22-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bingobars

Id' love to submit a video but I don't get back from Calcutta until June 21st and the Drug Rehab HIV+ Street Kitten Landmine Victim Orphanage that I volunteer in doesn't have a very good internet upload speed.

Syzzzurp · 05-22-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Johnson

Doesn't the 'reward' and the 'filming for Youtube' sort of drain the sincerity from a good deed. Certainly the recipient of said deed will still benefit, but when the whole purpose for the good deed existing in the first place is a) potential financial gain for the deed performer b) self-promotion for the award giver(Jungleman) it seems a little off.

I never thought good samaritans plotted, strategized and filmed being good samaritan's, they just were. In fact, doesn't a 'good deed' by definition require sacrifice, not personal gain?

I'm probably wrong here but first thing that popped into my head.

since the deeds would have been done before the competition was even conceived i don't see how this applies really, i agree if someone goes out now to film themselves doing good stuff that would be a bit off

notR0ld4this · 05-22-2012, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by browser2920

I thought I might have a shot, but the POTUS won't release the video of me shooting OBL.

winnar

John Wray · 05-22-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Johnson

Doesn't the 'reward' and the 'filming for Youtube' sort of drain the sincerity from a good deed. Certainly the recipient of said deed will still benefit, but when the whole purpose for the good deed existing in the first place is a) potential financial gain for the deed performer b) self-promotion for the award giver(Jungleman) it seems a little off.

I never thought good samaritans plotted, strategized and filmed being good samaritan's, they just were. In fact, doesn't a 'good deed' by definition require sacrifice, not personal gain?

I'm probably wrong here but first thing that popped into my head.

While I totally understand your reaction, I think you're being a little overly-cynical. Many many good deeds are rewarded in one way or another, and it encourages people to continue (or start) performing them. People are rewarded with money (tax breaks for charitable donations), recognition (key to the city and a parade), sex (hot girl will think you're awesome if you save a cat from a burning building), happy feelings (seratonin release in the brain), quid pro quo good deeds ("you paid for lunch last time, I got this one, buddy."), friendship & an increased sense of community, and plenty more. It's these incentives that drive our desire to perform good deeds, even if we don't consciously realize why we're doing it.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with what JM is doing, and I applaud him for doing so. It's like if a big corporation offered a million dollar reward for anyone who can invent a better way to provide water to villages in dry climates. Do we say "How dare you! People should invent better ways to provide water to villages on their own!"? Of course not. Rewards incentivize people to perform good deeds creating a win-win-win-win situation. IMO rewarding a good deed does not diminish it.

Tumaterminator · 05-22-2012, 01:16 PM

good luck deciding which act is the best amongst real and fake ones

**Mike Johnson** · 05-22-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Syzzzurp

since the deeds would have been done before the competition was even conceived i don't see how this applies really, i agree if someone goes out now to film themselves doing good stuff that would be a bit off

This is a good point. I'm just cynical I guess.

JohnnyPanic · 05-22-2012, 01:34 PM

Anything that promotes kindness and positivity without any negative consequences is a thumbs up from me.

networth · 05-22-2012, 01:36 PM

I'm gonna convince durrrr to finish the challenge and film it.