David, any idea who TJ Cloutier thinks win at HU PLO with 75 bb stacks: Sailor Roberts or Gus Hansen?

Looking forward to your thread on the matter.

there are plenty of great players who have lots of bracelets. there are some players who are not good relative to the number of bracelets they have. i choose to base what i think about players on how they actually played and not how many bracelets they have won. There is no way anybody can know if phil ivey could beat stuey unger or not but simply asking someone because they have 10 bracelets or that hes played a small sample size of live 10 handed tournament with both of them has any translation to how they would play versus each other heads up.

That's very thoughtful of you. And there just might be an ounce of hope left for you.

Also, Patrik Antonius v Mike Caro NLHE 100BBs, Patrik hasn't slept in 19 hours, Mike hasn't eaten since Tuesday (match takes place on Thursday afternoon), and is set outside of a bakery, run by family of Polish immigrants in the wets part of Austria.

The weather is nice, but a little windy.

I'd like to hear what Johnny Chan, Doyle Brunson and Carlos Salcido think.

Thank you, and looking forward to hearing from you soon.

Look bruh, game recognizes game.

The fact that you don't see the skill pretty much means you don't got it.

How about Grimstarr and Ungar VS Ivey and Eskimo in a 6bb team battle of NL 5 Card Draw. Please ask Johnny Chan.

The fact is that, counterintuitive as it might seem, head up poker is more amenable to mathematical thinking than other forms, as long as the math includes game theory. I don't believe it is an accident that the two most successful particpants, batting average wise, in the NBC head up events are I believe, math whizzes Chris Ferguson and Huck Seed. Even if they would not be favored over Stu or Phil, there is little doubt that if they consulted with an IBM, Big Blue type of team of engineers who were as motivated and bankrolled as the chess engineers, the computer would eventually be favored over anyone.

That's one reason why this question doesn't interest me. I wrote my threads because someone brought up the issue on an earlier thread and it generated conversation at the Bellagio. Since I knew that some posters might be interested in the opinions of big players who knew them both, and I knew that they would tell me if I asked, I did just that. This was not a precursor to anything.

First Doyle then Chan. How about you ask a player who isn't over the hill?

I dont think a dead guy could beat a living one. Ill take just about any bet.

Johnny Fan ***** Chan is simply jealous... Orange anyone?

end of thread...

This needs some love.

because almost no great player who's played with Stu Ungar is young?

Confirmed busto and over the hill http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=44

Yeah really looks like a loser to me

1 Stars.

Don't get the hate some here have for David Sklansky... he has just as much right as anyone else to start threads.. and there are a ton of moronic threads started every single day on every single branch of 2p2 without attracting as much personal venom from posters. Quite strange to ask me, because really, to a lot of people including those who dislike Sklansky, we would have first discovered 2p2 because of 2p2 books written by Sklansky that we had read.

Yes, the game has evolved since when those books were written, and maybe David isn't at the absolute cutting-edge of poker views and strategy in 2009.... but so what?? Worth of hate?? I don't think so. Let's put it this way..... ask yourself what you have done for the game of poker? Therefore I think I care more about what Sklansky thinks about something than what you think about Sklansky... even if Sklansky is wrong.

Pink Floyd "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" Stu Ungar Tribute.

people who say stuey would adapt to todays games, what are you basing that on? I cant think of any well known pros from back then who have managed to stay in touch with todays NL game. Not saying Doyle etc are bad at NL but i dont think they realise how much the game has evolved, or maybe they do and thats why they prefer other games now.

Also Johnny Chan doesnt have a ****ing clue, imagine how lauded he would be now if he'd have died, instead we get to see him tarding up every poker show hes on.

I think Stuey would adapt to todays conditions pretty fast. He would do meth instead.

I actually suspect he's Johnny Chan. He would beat both Stuey and Ivey for surez.

I love how he's tarded up the 4 PADs he's won.

Johnny Chan doesn't have a ****ing clue about today's NL game, that's why this decade he's won 5 bracelets, 2 of which were in NLH.. plus many final tables in all events. He's also won numerous Poker After Dark, Poker Superstars, etc against today's top players.

Maybe he ain't good enough to 4-table HU vs durrrr at 200/400 cash game on the Internet, but so what?? durrrr ain't good enough to take down 1 bracelet let alone 5 in a decade 20 years after winning WSOP ME back to back either. Maybe 10 years from now the sickest poker is played on ipokervoicepods with voice recognition to check/bet/call/raise and the voice is what gives away tells, the quickest voice-thinkers crush the game and durrrr, Antonius, OMGClayAiken, the Dang's and so on, yesterday's Internet cash game superstars, find it hard to adjust and crush the ipokervoicepod game at the highest stakes.. so they will be tomorrow's poker donks, right??

BS

Why don't you read something before embarrassing yourself? Maybe that every card game he ever picked up he was wayyyy ahead of the curve within a couple of days? But then again, what you have to say is surely more relevant that Doyle, Chan, Sexton, and all those other tards.*

*In this post, tard is referred to as non-internet playing, durrrr jock sniffing, internet geeks.

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Prime for prime, I mean.

im sorry, tiger would whoop jacks ass in their primes on any course. its not even close, then again you can say alot for the change in technology.

but back to stuey and ivey, im assuming say ungar was alive today in "internet" age and the 2 played hu, then I would think that Ungar was just a very sick player in any live game and I think he would have edge there in live hu, but online that would be funny to watch, esp ungar playing on a computer.

sklansky.