read 100% of it and it is still very apparent he did this for money and no other reason.

I am curious as to what Barry has to say about it.

Calling the bear, Barryg1 please report to this thread, thank you.

Was a huge fan of Poker Road Radio, never listening again.

Have the HHs been released? I wish somebody could answer this one way or the other.

I read the blog. It reads entirely like a UB publicity release, and possibly contains a blatant lie. He seems to think most people are aware that the HHs have been released. I am not aware of this being true, and would welcome confirmation one way or the other.

I wonder if he consulted with Rizen and found out why he left UB. When considering his decision he should hear from others besides company shills.

errrr, rizen? johnnybax? hellooooooo?

I need to know if we're using Sebok or regular math here.


Ooda- I've never heard of a single hand history being reported as received. If that changed overnight we'll find out soon I guess.

Sebock sold his soul to the devil.....like he really gives a f**k about anything else apart from how much money he can make out of this.

It wouldnt surprise me if a superuser acc come with part of the package!

I'm not outraged at all as I assume most here bitching aren't.

Its more about how they stole money from players and don't deserve trust/respect.

Were you the guy who was robbed in Australia? If that was you, how would you feel if your friends hung out w the guys that robbed you and told you "oh don't worry there good guys now they can be trusted"

the outrage at UB thing is old enough one might have almost thought they would have made a serious attempt to quell it by now.

I'm not outraged at all. It simply became ridiculous and I'm going to enjoy when it surfaces by pointing out how ridiculous it is.

Now they have a relatively big name signing again and the first thing he does as their new PR guy is apparently provide wrong information in his blog about the state of affairs. Or maybe it's just premature info.. or hey, it's UB, we really don't know.

You couldn't script this if you tried.

Maybe Joe can find out who these 31 are but in the end of the day its hard to understand what a hell he is thinking.

Exactly.

i mean after years they are finally releasing hh because joe said so......

rofl

I didn't have any money stolen from me as I didn't play much at UB, but those that did would probably ask you if you are still mad at the dude that stole from you in Aus.

Not trying to be a dick at all, just that perspective is different from everybody's experiences.

Only just spotted this, apefish. Thanks, that's what I thought.

already asked everyone i know who has been emailing them for over a year to get hh and they all said no.

Please,get more dramatic!

note that most ppl in the thread aren't outraged because he is signing with ub just to make money. they are mad because he is misrepresenting it as a noble purpose and is trying to exonerate ub for what would have to be a whole **** ton of money.

very nicely played.

I vote with my wallet. I have steadfastly refused to play on AP or UB even though have sent me several offers of special bonuses and stuff if I join. I will not support a site that allowed a major cheating scandal to thrive for years! Who is to say if anything is really any different today? I have an old saying that applies here, "Once a thief, always a thief!"

even if joe does have only good intentions(he obv doesn't)

who's to say that ub deserves to be exonerated. it makes perfect sense that they should suffer and lose massive business for cheating their players as an example to other sites.

I think ub is(or should be) extremely worried poker might go legal in the US. If their is any kind of gouverning body examining ethics or business practices of the sites they are toast.

+1

Edit: I get it now. Actually it makes sense: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibWj6YpZ4VM

First of all, the analogy seems a little silly as we've heard from countless people (I believe them, I guess if you don't that's a completely different story), that the people who were responsible for the theft are no longer involved with the company. Also, THEY PAID THE MONEY BACK. If the guy who stole my money paid me back, I wouldn't think he was a great guy, but I'd be over it.

I totally agree that the aftermath of the scandal was horribly mismanaged, and I hate the damage that was done to the legitimacy of online poker, but are we ever going to forgive them and accept that different people are in charge? This company is not going away, and they seem to be on the up and up at this point. Like honestly, what more do you people want from them? I guess you guys really want the 31 names, but there really are legit reasons for these not have come out yet (and Sebok actually said that he will be pushing for them to be released).


Not to mention all these nvgtards trashing for someone for taking a lucrative financial opportunity that would never be possible for them. It's really easy to get on your high horse and bash someone from behind your keyboard, but what it comes down to is the fact that playing tournament poker for a living is really ****ing hard, not to mention at the same time attempting to swing a flailing business into profitability at the same time. How could any of you (save a very select few) ever know what your decision would be in that scenario when you're getting paid an exorbitant sum of money to wear a ****ing patch?

Also those who say that they won't listen to pokerroad anymore b/c of this are really really silly.

Edit: and I mean, I can't really blame people for not trusting them. That's fine, don't play there, heck encourage other people not to, but to make moral judgements on Joe Sebok in this situation is just really stupid.