Isn't it true that Brandon won a big WPT and refused to tip whatsoever? What a clown!

Pretty glad he's broke.

I like where you put those quotation marks.

I'm not sure why you are making this about me. I've played 5/10 for over 2 years and have put in more hours at 5/10 than 2/5 this past year. My reasons for helping players in the Live Low Stakes Forum and Beginners Forum rather than the Medium High Stakes Forum are my own. Truth be told, I've only played a handful of hours at 1/2 and 1/3 since 2011 and before that I only played online.


I know a guy that at one point had a gambling bankroll of $700k, "grinded" 200+ hrs of poker a month, was always comped penthouse suites at major Vegas hotels and played the highest stake games at the casino I play, and yet he had difficulty paying back (amongst other loans) a few hundred dollars he owed to a high school kid that plays at my casino. It's pathetic but it's certainly not unique.

Yes, it is too much, and I refuse to honor your request. I know plenty of degenerates (which is what 95% of poker players are, even the winning ones) that have not honored their loans, and I even know of one that went as far as to murder his backer.


Well, it certainly wouldn't happen with me. If I lent money to someone and they didn't pay back in a timely fashion they would be sucking on a .40 caliber. That being said, I'm not a bank and would just rather not waste my time collecting.

This.

It does appear that it is -EV to loan money.

The one time (and you will) get burned usually doesn't make up for the little money you get paid back.

And the great con-artists pay back the money at first and gain trust. And then, boom, they welch on a huge amount.

That's usually +ev. Prison's good for brushing up on theory.

I played with Lisandro a few years ago in Prague. Seemed scrappy + complete disregard for his own well being= fish on a heater in an MMA fight.

this thread does not deliver

+1

Tried to message you directly but didn't seem to be able to. In my statement, I wasn't trying to make it about me, as much as I was just using my example and how WSOP chooses to reprimand players, and whether they would handle this the way they handled my situation. If you really need or want 'the rest of the story' you are more than welcome to email me and i will share that with you. thepokermonkey1 at america online

Not the only one

Jeffrey Lisandro looks like Hamidou, the vicious guard from Midnight Express. No do, No do, William Hayes.

Pot, kettle, what? Minus the millions obv.

Wish idiots like this challenged me, but I am not a deadbeat nor a scrawny punk so probably won't happen in this lifetime. I would give either one 2-1 odds for 20k vs me.

Winnings never equals profit. Hendon Mob is the equivalent of a cash game player deleting every losing session from their journal to arrive at their "winnings".

And then we have stakes, pieces sold, travel expenses, etc.

As expected -

1. Not is "fight";

2. Cantu owes the money.

What does Xanax do to the fight odds?

Anybody self-sufficient shouldn't lend money. If you walk around with your life savings in your pocket then go ahead and lend money when you can. You never know when you'll be on the other end looking to put a bite on whatever degen is on a roll at the moment.

Based on my experience, usually the bigger guy.

you're not kidding! Have an acquaintance in town who kinda owes the world. Some penny ante, some several thou. Played a Deepstacks 2 weeks ago. Got to final table. ended up having quite a rail, once word got out the chance of collecting on the dollar was a possibility. Guy didn't even have the $400 buy-in so sold 50% to a "partner" right off the jump. Then, he already had "cross 5%" deals with 2 other "unfortunates". Guy is into our mutual friend for low 5 fig from a loan made late '12. Anyway, guy cashes for $14k, $7k goes to female partner, $700 ea. to pct-ers, and when our friend stepped up, hand out, was initially offered 10% of winnings, not total owed. Ended up getting between 20%-25% of what's owed. Friend is still steamed but I told him you gotta leave the guy something to keep playing and not selling 60% upfront toal of self or you'll never get another chunk like that again. Right or wrong?

Haha, amazing!

I like Lisandro in that fight

Lisandro has more class than most or Cantu would be bruised and battered inside and outside. That punk is already dead inside.

Is PokerNews going to **** or what? Sub-standard interviewees, poor lighting, audio and video quality on recent videos, and their website is infected with malware.

So they choose now to do a random stupid video about Cantu? Probably asked him to do a video, he said no, so you did one about him anyway (rather than with him). And why not get someone to randomly mention Jeff Lisandro while you're at it?

**** video is ****

For some reason PN deleted the video and re-uploaded it a couple hours ago

WSOP 2014: Is Brandon Cantu the Most Underrated Poker Player?

Maybe he has buy ins of $3,500,000 and travel/living expenses of $500,000 (06 to present), so he's broke.

I don't know why people think poker "winnings" are profit. Someone could have $5,000,000 in winnings with $10,000,000 in buy ins. Would you think this player who is down $5,000,000 overall is good because he can show $5,000,000 in "winnings" or bad because he lost 5 million dollars?