missed out on a few weeks of this, cliffs of updates?

Natasha is still annoyed that Fernando texted her on the day of her baby's gender reveal.

I don't think Natasha comes off that bad at all.

- Requests partial rebate on losses. If she has reasonable suspicion of being cheated but just can't prove it, and plenty of others agree, simply asking seems appropriate.

- Refusing to play until live session. Not that big of a request given the reasonable suspicion and how aggressive this guy to get action. It should be made clear that if there are no big unexplained red flags during live play that he will get paid.

- Not wanting to deal with person she thinks scammed him during and in the days before/after a major life event... so what?

- Pointing out that Moscow apparently lied on a relevant matter when she said she was never recently broke. Why would she not bring this up once she's been dragged into it?

Only silly part is the computer wizard stuff, no evidence provided.

Has the gender been revealed yet? Or will it be a slowroll?

The baby will surely be called either Fernando or Jaclynn.

Well, either beats being called Doug Polk.

Natasha will pay when Jason starts making joint accounts

it seems to me that natasha never informed fernando at the time she was slow paying and dodging him that she felt she'd been cheated and is now retroactively using the cheating allegations in an attempt to protect herself from being put on blast for her scummy antics (again). just look at jaclynn's latest post where text exchanges between natasha and fernando are provided in which natasha alludes to others getting rebates as the reason for her to also get one, NOT due to foul play. the entire snippet below is natasha desperately trying to be convincing she had good reason to not honor her agreements:

"I obviously thought you were cheating."
"So the convos you posted are just more proof that i thought you were cheating for sure."

nice try!

wow its 2017. a gender reveal party? the baby cant speak yet so it cant tell you what gender it is. goddd.

I am not saying they did or didn't cheat, I don't know **** about OFC, (as we both know, literally the only time I played OFC for more than like play money was live against you) so I cannot say anything about the likelihood they did or didn't cheat.

The problem is this, when you run up a balance you have 1 of 2 options

1) Pay

2) Say that you think they were cheating and not pay, understanding that if you frequently do that you are going to look bad and also not get further action.

There isn't a third option, where after losing you get to arbitrarily decide how much you should get to pay. You say you should get a 50% discount because he offers that to other people before they play? How is that in any way relevant, you already have a balance with him. You don't get to decide afterwards that you get the same discount and try to negotiate him down because he "might be cheating".

Personally, I think if you play OFC, you do so knowing you might get cheated and that is the rake. If you can say afterwards oh you were cheating I don't have to pay and get away with it then the entire thing is pretty stupid. It's kind of like at high stakes poker online, you play people knowing there is a % chance they are multi accounting even if they shouldn't. It doesn't make doing it ok, you just play realizing there is a chance that is occurring.

I understand that then makes cheating very profitable, but guess what, cheating people has always been very profitable. Don't play with people you don't trust to play fair, or play in a game you can assure is fair. If you play in a game knowing the parameters, and then lose a lot of money in a way you cannot actually prove cheating, then IMO the responsibility of the debt is on you.

Either way, negotiating someone off the balance you owe because they might be cheating is completely insane.

(Oh btw Fernando, the original text to her is super creepy. "Hey congrats on the kid, that is amazing. Also, wheres my money?")

This battle to see who is the biggest victim is interesting psychologically.

Jaclynn has gone public about being a victim of an alleged assault by a well known figure in the poker world.

Fernando goes public about being the victim of an alleged smear by two well figures in the poker world.

Both actively seek public attention for their victim stories, posting online videos, posting on sites, but other than publicly complaining about the situation, not doing anything.

Using other well known people to try to get reflected attention to ones self aint cool.

If Nolan Dalla did it, sue him.

If Fernando is innocent, play live and show what a great player you are that needs no tricks to win/

Until then, they risk looking like people playing the role of victims in order to seek attention.

Good post
Her "I decided not to pay" is nonsense.

Even worse that she has a rep for this crap.well nobody is gonna get scammed worse by her than her husband.

I thought he was trying to play live but Mercier won't do it at stakes he can afford.

The thing with narcissists - everything they think/do is infallible. If she loses there must be something wrong. If there's something wrong then she shouldn't pay. Not a whole lot you can do (apart from avoid dealing with them), their whole worldview is based on them being right.

? he didn't ask for money after congratulating

if i sit at a live table and you dont remember playing me, am i multiaccounting?

if i go to the theater and youre at the concession stand ordering pepperoni pizza, am i a vegetarian?

I think there is a third option.

3) You suspect cheating but want to gather evidence, so you feign ignorance. You wait to play the suspected cheater live where you can gain more information.

If you out the cheater prematurely, he will take measures to hide future suspicious behavior that could be seif-incriminating.

gender reveal night had me dying

I keep checking this thread to see if these women Fappening each other.

The ole' "gender reveal night" excuse - if I've heard it once, I've heard it 1000x

FYP

Accepting an offer to get a discount on a depth is like pleading guilty to cheating.
Making such an offer is not appropriate.

Not responding to an inquiry about an issue about eachothers integrity ASAP, even if its only "please let me call/text/talk to you ASAP to adress to this issue, I'm busy <insert whatever excuse>" is weak.

I dont know who is the victim and who is the perpetrator. Many of the accusations, details of communication and the integrity of play just cant be judged by outsiders. But this kind of behave is NOT OK.

However, I will probably never understand. Just try to give a View by an outsider to maybe help you get a little out of the box, out of the casino's plastic world, the poker world's dazzlement, the shooting star's dream-world and the arrogance of the (wanna-be) famous and (used to be) rich.

Many of you are just too far from reality and thats sad. And I'm primarily talking about the ones having success and beeing in this world for too long.

tbf Jason brings his dog to tournaments with him

Lol

got a chuckle out of this as well.

Pay the man his money, scummers