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Jason Mercier spreads unfounded cheating accusations Jason Mercier spreads unfounded cheating accusations

04-29-2017 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by relaxursoul
Are you saying that after Jason decided to stake you, which requires some level of trust, he then immediately accused you of stealing after your first losing session, even though you were the one trying to protect him by telling others to stop stealing from him? Maybe I’m misinterpreting or missing something as this seems hard to believe, can you please provide more details?
Not quite, we met at EPT San Remo which launched his poker career with a win, then we played and hung out a bit at LAPT Uruguay. He was looking to stake a bunch of people it seemed, and I was on a bit of a downswing so I didn't mind moving up a bit and he took some of my action online. I was up once i got to the PCA, and he was only taking action for a few weeks or so I believe.

Basically the night before day 1, He gave me a decent chunk of change for a bigger game than at the time I'd be playing, still under the stake. He didn't really say anything, and honestly this was a year removed from his big cash so he was probably nieve with staking and the shadiness involved (at least to an extent). So the night before, I got into a huge hand, big cooler, I can't recall the hand but I had a set of queens lol (it's been like 6 yrs so sorry lol). It was close and I made the wrong decision and ended up losing a pretty big hand.

Dude comes to my door next morning right before the ****ing 10k starts, with his girlfriend, accusing me of stealing his $!. I was shocked, it was insane... I told him that he's out of his mind. He requested that I give him part of the makeup for the loss, and I essentially said fine and **** off.

Now, ironically, I was acquainted with an individual who either was ripping him off in one way or another or just outright stealing... And I told him to stop and that it's a piece of **** move. Beyond that, wtf could I do, and I told him what I thought and to keep that **** away from me. I also wasnt going to snitch; I knew this acquaintance...an acquaintance.... maybe 20x more than I knew Jason at the point.

A year later, Jason mentioned this to one of my buddies, and a dude that I taught in his earlier years as he transitioned from low-stakes winner to solid pro (Frank Calo, aka FrankTheTank). I contacted Jason online a week after the PCA letting him know he was ****ing wrong, but essentially tried to make peace with the dude.

So... a year later, he relays to Frank that I'm some sort of scammer, and that I gave him a "sob story"??. According to Frank, he let him know what the deal was - paid him the $ that I "owed" him (parentheses because I should have told him to **** off since I didn't actually owe him a dime but was willing to eat part of the loss...). Also, I never ducked him, I forgot and so did he it seems, as he never mentioned it. I paid Frank, of course - but I was kinda pissed that I had to so at that point given how he framed me as a scammer.

I never got to know Jason very well, but honestly, it was just cordial and then rapidly insane. He did not monitor his stakees, had no real system, no real method to his staking and I guarantee he been taken advantage of by plenty.

He might be an OK guy, I don't really know the dude. But this is what happened. Some of the minor details I'm sure might be a tad off (it's been years....), but not the major details.

I really kinda wanted to just crack him once I heard what he said about me to a good friend at the time, but it's far in the past and just hope he uses his brain a bit more in these kinds of scenarios.

It was also ****ed up because it totally threw me off for the first levels of the PCA, where ironically I sat across from one of the cowboy full tilt scammers all day prior to black friday of course...

Anyway, that's the deal - it's long in the past but figured it couldn't hurt to share, and Jason - in the unlikely event that you happen to read this; man the **** up and admit you ****ed up...
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04-29-2017 , 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by NoExit
He has a history of this kind of behavior, but he's also been correct a lot. Sadly, the poker world attracts many scumbags and cheats. Anyone who's been around long enough would know this and err on the side of caution.
Yeah, he's no dummy...

He's just a little delusional or maybe just misguided it seems in this domain it seems.
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05-12-2017 , 12:50 AM
This post is being made primarily as an attempt to clarify the doubts of those who have not settled OFC debts with Jaclynn and I. The main point in Jaclynn’s post is that there is confirmed history of Natasha avoiding to settle a debt by making unfounded cheating accusations. Also, Jason’s opinion is constructed from the information Natasha has fed him.

Natasha called me days after her last reply and stated:
“When you attack like this on 2+2 we have no choice but to attack back.”

“We have 0 proof that you guys could have been cheating or were cheating or are cheating, we have 0.”

“It sucks it literally sucks to be called a cheater if you’re actually not using a program, and if that’s the case then I really apologize from me and Jason’s part, but you need to understand that it wasn’t that we decided that you were a cheating cause you beat me, we decided you were cheating because of a lot of information that we had at the time were you weren’t into poker at all and you were just introduced to live open face.”

“If you want one advice this post shouldn’t be out there I don’t even go on there I don’t care anymore you can keep it out there, if you have a chance to get this post out of there its not good for you because there is no way people are going to click on that and the first thing there going to see is that a big name is accusing a person that nobody knows of cheating and no matter what most people are goanna be like ok Jason is right, you understand? You just have this against you. This post shouldn’t be out there for your own sake. And second of all I may know somebody, for example that was trying not to pay you that I convinced to pay you. For example, that you don’t know about right now, you understand? I am not against you. There is a person that I might convinced to pay you that said “I’m not paying” I’m not trying to get you stiffed, I am trying to help you to get you your money because I have no proof and I want this to be done.”

Also to clarify

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Originally Posted by Missmedusa86
You were walking around left and right offering people 50% discount and wearing an OFC addict shirt. Nobody had seen you before in poker. And I felt like for sure you cheated me. I decided to play you live before paying you to make sure it was the same person i was playing on the app. YOU REFUSED to play live at the beginning and I decided you wouldn't get paid before playing me live. After WATCHING my games (for hours) against other players playing live you finally decided to accept to play me.

Why don't you post these convos on the thread instead? The ones of me asking to play live and you being like: “Nah”.
I only offered ONE person a 50% discount and he declined to play me. In our conversation you stated that you did not have our WhatsApp conversation because you had a new phone, fortunately I do have it.

As you can see there is no “Nah” in the conversation, and I accepted to play you heads up without hesitation.

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Originally Posted by Missmedusa86
I crushed him only in games he didn’t know? another LOL
most of my games with Fernando live were us playing HI HI HI which is the regular OFC version. Please get your facts straight before coming at me with BS.
At PCA 2016 we played high, low, and BDP WITH SPADE MULTIPLIERS, which I had never played before, and yes you only crushed me that time. I am up overall in our Vegas games.
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Originally Posted by Missmedusa86
So please don't act like you're suddenly this mathematics wizard...when really the resume that was posted on this thread about you was all about you being a COMPUTER wizard.
What was posted was an essay where I mention that I had taken a college level entry course of Computer Science. Mathematics was my most likely major had I declared one.

Natasha also stated “let’s just say hypothetically if I go out there and post ‘Fernando just proved to me he wasn’t cheating,’ the people that are going to play you are still going to go out and they’re going to read that you were accused.” I then say “I still think that would be a better result than what I had initially of people just thinking I was cheating.” She replies “yes is a better result for you and then we look like liars”. This hypothetical scenario shows that if they were to truly change their stance via new information they will not post about it. In conclusion, they have admitted to having absolutely no evidence and that they will not change their public stance even if their private stance changes.

Last edited by relaxursoul; 05-12-2017 at 01:01 AM.
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05-12-2017 , 03:15 AM
well this is disappointing..
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05-12-2017 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by nickjehz
well this is disappointing..
For sure. I can't believe I wasted my time reading that incoherent wall of text given that there was no new information. Thanks Fernando.
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05-12-2017 , 01:43 PM
Fernando's silence about playing live to prove there is no sinister difference between live play and online play is still deafening.

I am starting to wonder if it really was him playing those games online. Maybe it was Isabelle Mercier playing, and this is all an incredible cover up by her, by trashing her own reputation, hubby's, Saint Fernando, and Little Miss Controversial, Moi? Jacklyn Moskow, all in one demented frenzy of mutual suspicion.

But it is a great breakthrough - IF there was proof Fernando hadn't been cheating, Isabelle MIGHT respond in a certain way, and IF she did, for SOME people it MIGHT change how things look, BUT for OTHER people things MAY seem the same.

Ding ding, round 52...
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05-12-2017 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by nickjehz
well this is disappointing..
i haven't been this disappointed with a new development since gender reveal night
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06-08-2017 , 04:52 PM
Has Fernando played live yet?
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06-16-2017 , 09:20 PM
I'm a software engineer, and I specialize in creating iOS and Android apps. Let me start by saying that I don't know any of the parties involved here, and have no knowledge as to whether these two specifically were cheating or not.

What I do know, however, is this: if you are playing any iOS/Android game through a mobile app for any amount of real money that wasn't specifically designed for real-money gaming purposes and run by a licensed operator - with all of the certification and security requirements that go along with that - you are bat**** crazy and absolutely deserve to lose every dime you put into action. This thread shouldn't have been necessary, because people as smart as Jason Mercier or his wife shouldn't have been playing in the first place.

The app may have bugs or vulnerabilities that allow the card distribution to be controlled, the server running the game may be compromised, the game's author could simply be colluding with specific players by offering a backdoor to control the game, etc. Then there's the bot issue, but honestly if there was anything odd going on here, my guess is it was one of the above tactics. The RNG was supposedly tested independently, but that means...nothing. That may not even be the software that is currently running the game....it just means that the company sent some RNG software for testing and then released a game. It even says this in their own report:

Spoiler:
The scope of the test was the software elements of the RNG only; source code and a test harness for empirical
testing were supplied. The containing platform was not supplied and the submission did not include failure
monitoring systems, so the RNG software has been assessed (in isolation) against industry best practice for
technical compliance.


The important takeaway here is that there shouldn't have been any action on this app by anyone intelligent enough to have been able to fill out the registration form for this forum. If you've lost money, you only have yourself to blame, and you should pay any debts you've accrued and cease your play on this or any other similar app. You have no way to prove anyone has cheated you, but you had every reason to believe that all opponents that would accept or pursue any action on this app would be cheating. That was the risk you accepted. You shouldn't be absolved from paying your gambling debts just because you are a bad decision maker.

Last edited by cwazy; 06-16-2017 at 09:41 PM.
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06-19-2017 , 12:11 AM
^Thanks for sharing your knowledge to give insight into this incident.

However, would have to disagree with this point:

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You have no way to prove anyone has cheated you, but you had every reason to believe that all opponents that would accept or pursue any action on this app would be cheating. That was the risk you accepted. You shouldn't be absolved from paying your gambling debts just because you are a bad decision maker.
When two people agree to play, honesty and honor is also part of the agreement. For instance, even if the app was proven to be 100% uncheatable, you still have to trust the other party to pay you if they lose. Based on your argument, if you can assume all opponents will cheat because they can, you can also assume that all opponents will stiff you because they can. In that case, Mercier's wife doesn't have to pay her debts because Fernando should have known better.
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07-11-2017 , 03:47 PM
Well, was Fernando a big winner at wsop?
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07-12-2017 , 01:00 PM
Natasha does have a history of accusing players of cheating when she loses which seems to be a lot.
Jason was with another woman until 2 years ago he showed up with this Natasha in Bobbys room. She was clearly Jason"s new boss and berated him in front of the entire room. She started to play poker of some kind, no one paid any attention then bam...3 months later she was the greatest Chinese player in the world.
She sits in Bobbys room up Jason's ass full of her opinions and whatever. She wanted to play the high stakes players in Bobbys room. They did not think Jason was stupid enough to allow her but, he was. She got killed.
Finally last month Jason told her to shut the F up in front of everyone and just shut up!
Jason, just a tip..You and Galfond are gonna be broke if you don't get some man balls.
Natasha is not being cheated she JUST can't play the people she is playing and at those stakes. Let her play the other girlfriend/wives of players and stop allowing her to punt for your position in poker. She looks and sounds ridiculous. Players are losing respect for you. They are tired of listening to her and to you both. They are even tired of little marshmallow her fake service dog jumping and sitting on tables everywhere. It has got annoying and no one made her boss of Bobbys room. She is the boss of you but, none else.
Send her to Gucci or to Prive with the other wives to have a few drinks and retrieve your manhood back.
If you want to throw what little money you have left out the window then stake David Degenmine.
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07-12-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Privateworld
Natasha does have a history of accusing players of cheating when she loses which seems to be a lot.
Jason was with another woman until 2 years ago he showed up with this Natasha in Bobbys room. She was clearly Jason"s new boss and berated him in front of the entire room. She started to play poker of some kind, no one paid any attention then bam...3 months later she was the greatest Chinese player in the world.
She sits in Bobbys room up Jason's ass full of her opinions and whatever. She wanted to play the high stakes players in Bobbys room. They did not think Jason was stupid enough to allow her but, he was. She got killed.
Finally last month Jason told her to shut the F up in front of everyone and just shut up!
Jason, just a tip..You and Galfond are gonna be broke if you don't get some man balls.
Natasha is not being cheated she JUST can't play the people she is playing and at those stakes. Let her play the other girlfriend/wives of players and stop allowing her to punt for your position in poker. She looks and sounds ridiculous. Players are losing respect for you. They are tired of listening to her and to you both. They are even tired of little marshmallow her fake service dog jumping and sitting on tables everywhere. It has got annoying and no one made her boss of Bobbys room. She is the boss of you but, none else.
Send her to Gucci or to Prive with the other wives to have a few drinks and retrieve your manhood back.
If you want to throw what little money you have left out the window then stake David Degenmine.
Not sure how much, if any, of the above is serious or true, but no doubt Privateworld is in the top 5 2plus2 NVG posters of all time.
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07-12-2017 , 01:11 PM
Oh really, fake service dogs are annoying? I only said that well over a year ago.
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07-12-2017 , 01:31 PM
The best is when nit-Tasha was giving her opinion to to of the highest stake winning cash game players in the world on how to play...freaking hysterical.
Jason, bro, your game has suffered, you've gained 50 pounds you look like you got ran over by a Natasha truck. Now pregnant it is only going to get worse.
Pick your balls up off the floor and put a end to it.
Don't allow her to be involved with any pro players in any gambling kind of way. It is hurting your relationships with these players and it will end badly every time.
The "everyone's cheating me" stories have become lame and old.
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07-12-2017 , 01:57 PM
Gold
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07-12-2017 , 03:50 PM
Yes gold
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07-12-2017 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Privateworld
Natasha does have a history of accusing players of cheating when she loses which seems to be a lot.
Jason was with another woman until 2 years ago he showed up with this Natasha in Bobbys room. She was clearly Jason"s new boss and berated him in front of the entire room. She started to play poker of some kind, no one paid any attention then bam...3 months later she was the greatest Chinese player in the world.
She sits in Bobbys room up Jason's ass full of her opinions and whatever. She wanted to play the high stakes players in Bobbys room. They did not think Jason was stupid enough to allow her but, he was. She got killed.
Finally last month Jason told her to shut the F up in front of everyone and just shut up!
Jason, just a tip..You and Galfond are gonna be broke if you don't get some man balls.
Natasha is not being cheated she JUST can't play the people she is playing and at those stakes. Let her play the other girlfriend/wives of players and stop allowing her to punt for your position in poker. She looks and sounds ridiculous. Players are losing respect for you. They are tired of listening to her and to you both. They are even tired of little marshmallow her fake service dog jumping and sitting on tables everywhere. It has got annoying and no one made her boss of Bobbys room. She is the boss of you but, none else.
Send her to Gucci or to Prive with the other wives to have a few drinks and retrieve your manhood back.
If you want to throw what little money you have left out the window then stake David Degenmine.
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Originally Posted by Privateworld
The best is when nit-Tasha was giving her opinion to to of the highest stake winning cash game players in the world on how to play...freaking hysterical.
Jason, bro, your game has suffered, you've gained 50 pounds you look like you got ran over by a Natasha truck. Now pregnant it is only going to get worse.
Pick your balls up off the floor and put a end to it.
Don't allow her to be involved with any pro players in any gambling kind of way. It is hurting your relationships with these players and it will end badly every time.
The "everyone's cheating me" stories have become lame and old.
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Originally Posted by Privateworld
Yes gold
****ing platinum. Privateworld for President.

And **** their fake ass service dog too.
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07-12-2017 , 06:02 PM
Doug should make a video about the little **** dog.
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07-12-2017 , 06:04 PM
Well he has one himself...but at least I've never seen it in the poker room.
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07-12-2017 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by domgio7
Well, was Fernando a big winner at wsop?
Funny how instead of cashing in on the juicy live Chinese action at WSOP, Fernando simply disappeared.

Where are you Fernando? Do you only hassle people to play you, even offering them bonuses, when it is on the app? Surely you can't be that big of a dog live if you are such a crusher on the app without cheating.

Play live - that was your chance to prove you weren't cheating. Your refusal to do so makes you look guilty af.
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07-12-2017 , 06:24 PM
is there a way to get notifications when Privateworld posts?

w/ regards to the thread...seems like there isn't much to be gained by ruffing up both OP and JMs reputation given there's no way to prove anything definitively. we are chasing our own tail here.
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07-15-2017 , 08:19 AM
Does everyone realize the greatest poster in NVG history spit hot fire in here? Because I didnt until ten minutes ago! And now I'm pumped up! Privateworld, you are the nuts! Greatest of all time. SMDH...what a hero. Legend.
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07-15-2017 , 02:55 PM
Please someone get Privateworld on a podcast. Don't out him obv, Do an AsianSpa with him or sth. That would be awesome if arranged.
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07-15-2017 , 03:08 PM
Had 11 outlets ask for interviews and podcast. Declined. Obv they knew I was real in what I say. Daniel knows who I am that's why he will not spar with me or call me a liar. He does not want to poke the bear.
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