He plays on it vs people he trusts. He doesn't trust the OP. It's really not that complicated.

The OP said he'd play vs him live if he accepted some sort of live challenge and at 1/10th the stakes that JM plays, and even to that he has to sell action to do it. If the OP wants to go play him at 1k/pt in the bellagio I would guess that it would happen, but the OP doesn't want to do that. Which is fine if he doesn't want to do it, but JM doesn't owe to him playing him on the app or playing him for an amt that is a waste of his time.

He only expressed his opinion on 2p2 after the OP decided to make the whole thing public. It's not like it's not common knowledge that apps have the potential to be compromised anyways though.

You seem to believe that you're negotiating from a position of strength.

Kelly Criterion no problem. Suits? Which one is clubs again? Jungleman we found someone that's a bigger misfit than you.

so OP is the WCG Rider of OFC?

Nice list, it is also worth to add that he was very quick to dismiss other sites with real money action cause of the convenience and rake reasons. The former one should hardly ever be a consideration as a pro struggling for action and the latter is a joke considering how he is very quick to offer a freeroll to anyone who can find him action on the app.

JM, sounds like OP has booked in for 100/pt, 20k escrowed, 2.5k hands minimum, live in Bobby's room.

Is that a deal you'll take? If so, wondering why not... sounds like you're pretty sure you're a favorite.

Not sure if you'll think it's worth your time..... but, I think a lot of people would like to see this match... sounds like some good potential for side action!

2.5k hands live is what like 100+ hours? unrealistic request

Exactly whch app was in use?

ABC Poker app is well known to have compromised for years.

i think it's this one:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pine...906193660?mt=8

it is indeed a pretty smooth app, UK gambling commission audit inside, would be scary if it's compromised.

So if you think there is a chance someone you don't really know is cheating... you have to keep playing them and also tell your friends to play them too.

Based on OP not wanting to play live, offering incentives to play on the app, and it being a phone app... I don't know how anyone reasonable wouldn't think there is at least a 5% chance OP was cheating.

We are willing to host this event in our tournament Finals area and broadcast it live via twitch. No rake. Free food and beverages for you two.

We can offer some of the best dealers/stand-by dealers in SFL with shuffling machine(s), fresh setups upon request, point tally assistance/verification, seating for a large crowd of spectators, and play updates via twitter. If there are any other stipulations we will do what we can to accommodate!

Thanks,
TTJ

Do hands in OFC go faster than hold em generally?

Can I also call the OP a cheater so I can get in on that?

Great offer. Only cheaters would turn that deal down.

Summary of thread seems to be....

OP: I'd like to play on the app.
2+2: He is a cheat!
OP: Ok I'll play live.
2+2: He is a cheat who keeps bringing up the app!
OP: No I'll play live, this is a live challenge.
2+2: Stop talking about the app! Cheat!

PBKC just put it all out there for you. Please snap accept and lets lock in a date!

+1

I don't understand what the issue is anymore. Are you down to play him live or not JM? If not, it's probably fair to stop making cheating accusations.

These seem to be accurate cliffs tbf.

It does seem like Jason is big leaguing OP and Limon would not be impressed. Jason says $1k/pt and op says he only ever played as high as $25/pt and "only once". So Jason knows OP isn't accepting that ****. Completely unreasonable if he actually wants to play which it's obvious that he doesn't.

Is it really that odd? This guy is a pineapple OFC crusher but I suspect that title doesn't make you warren buffet.

The conditions are amount of hands and stakes and a side bet?

Way too many hands, and slow. I dealt Bobby's Room and OFC was fun to deal because it's so easy, but the players are so damn slow with their stupid "sweating" of cards taking 5 seconds to turn it over and another 5-10 seconds to place a card when it's an automatic decision. The app is much faster.
Rake shouldn't be much of a factor though, it's $15hh per player and $25 dealer tip so $110 an hour gone just 1 point basically.
Jason is really good fwiw

nope. no factor.

btw

That rake is absurd, lol. Maybe not in the context of $100+/pt, but JFC. $50/hour tip to deal a game that an untrained monkey could deal. The dealer literally just throws cards at people and does nothing else in OFC.

lol @ $110/hr being a nonfactor

i dunno how big OFC edges are but that has to be a huge hit to the winrate at $100/point between two top players

(and if this challenge actually happens you can bet they're both top players)

Agreed, at $100/pt that's sizeable. Think he was saying in the context of it being the rake when they play in bobbys room at 1k+/pt. So obv not as big a factor at those stakes.