I'm not sure the aim is to prove conclusively who is the better player based on results.

If they both feel they are the better player then they will both be happy to be in what they believe to be a +EV situation for as long as that belief remains, or at least until they feel it's fairly close and they could find better value elsewhere.

was really rooting for op but his repeated insistence on using the app to play strongly suggests that he is guilty.

That plus the fact that he didn't respond to a number of very good points from Jason.

"at a minimum of $100/pt with a $20k buyout clause."
then procedes with: "I am willing to play live, but I prefer the app for the following obvious reasons"

I think everyone missed the part where OP said he would play live, he's not insisting on using the app at all, just saying that he's playing in a way that isn't his preferred method.

all these illiterate randos need to stop posting

"My name is Fernando Rosas (relaxursoul on Pineapple app) and I have been playing OFC obsessively for almost a year and a half"

has soul crushed everyone on the app but not rolled for live play and can't distinguish card suits..lmao...either meet Jason in Bobby's room or STFU

Buy 2 iPads, Jason or trusted source installs app on each fresh out of box with supervision from both players, they play predetermined amount of hands and loser pays for iPads as well as the ending balance. Problem solved?

Edit: and obv they play sitting across from each other with neutral 3rd party watching if necessary

lol are you trying to dig your way out of this hole?

as long as it's a different app this might be enough

good point

The only reason I said earlier that they would want to use an app is for time concerns when the number 10k hands was being thrown around. Obviously just playing it live straight up would be best but if the only real concern is cheating via app I think there is probably a convoluted way to make it work.

I personally can't think of an exploit, therefore it must be secure.

This thread is already several pages too long. OP supposedly came on to kill off negative gossip that was affecting his action, and has succeeded only in spreading the gossip widely. He would do well to let the thread die.

Those who are trying to come up with ways to make it harder for him to cheat in a game with Jason are missing the main point. Jason does not trust him, and has no sane reason to deal with him any more than he has to.

Not only OP has failed to address some really good points made by Jason, he was also offered an action on third party sites (SWC, TonyBet) to which he didn’t replay at all, at least in public. I have a feeling he will soon proceed by making some unreasonable request regarding their live play to make sure it will not happen. I am sorry OP but you have made some really bad impression and speaking from a random reader point of view it is safe to assume that your success is tied in some way to the app.

+1

Some of these guys are lovably trusting follks.

Pretty sure conversation is over. If OP wants to play JM he can at any point he wants assuming this is done live without the app. Should jump at the chance since you were offering freerolls to people to get JM to play you.

Fair criticism. I was genuinely curious though as to what it would take. Btw I am in no way trying to defend OP or insinuate that A. Jason should play him on an app or B. Jason should play him at all.

I love that the worlds greatest online player who plays day and night can't tell apart suits. Score one for old school!

OP should jump at the opportunity to play Jason in live OFC even if they only play for a small sample.

1) It will be obvious even over a short session if OP is a strong player or doesn't know what he's doing. If he plays well he will clear his name.

2) He can take a shot in a big game where he has a perceived massive edge.


All this talk about thousands of hands to prove how much better you are than Jason will never amount to anything and not help your action in the long run anyway.

The second challenge issued is in a live nonapp format.

You're freerolling then. If there is some secret exploit in app that only you know about then you aways win round 1 and can play the live round freerolling Jason.

total waste of oxygen by OP. JM is prob the best poker player in the World and has never been accused of cheating or any unethical dealings except by people that didnt take their meds. It is obvious you are a cheat and a scumbag to post this crap on here to get action. I hope Nolan's lawyers are watching this thread for Nolan's lawsuit versus Mostow another cheat. Should bring to light many others who have been cheating with these apps. Random card shuffles I call....BS

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that OP has accepted just playing live vs JM?

Um OP is clearly saying HE'LL PLAY JASON LIVE, but prefers the app and gave the reasons why, and safe guards for cheating. These safe guards are obviously sufficient too. People in the thread are acting like there are CIA level shenanigans going on in the Pineapple OFC App world.

I dont understand what the issue is now? Why hasn't Jason just said ok lets do the Live version of the challenge OP offered?

Also, using Occam's razor, I'm going to go out on a limb and say OP probably doesn't have an app developer mole "feeding him cards" and is probably just pretty good at this game.

Then again PotRipper so I get being careful, just play Live then, OP says he's down.