http://www.poker-king.com/poker-king...hp?article=701

"Not only did Zimbler end up beating Cain's record (just barely), but he also managed to raise over 30k pounds for various UK charities.

yet the cheque he handed over was £13,048.22. Can someone explain???

Can we please hear more on this?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/97/two-plus-two-pokercast/pokercast-episode-228-ray-bitar-arrested-live-location-wsop-coverage-neil-channing-1219067/

Bord commented on Twitter:

betting the stock market, with a rabbi.

lol, forgot about that one. stay classy Feldman

The poker farm staking operation was a separate business entity to the website. One business was essentially a gambling syndicate ( the staking)' the other business was an online marketing/affiliate website. So to answer your question, with the poker farm website likely to relaunch later down the line under new ownership there will be no responsibility or liability to pay any player who used to play under the staking operation. Secondly the company taking over the website has no connection or commitment to this debt. lastly you refer 'to any profits' to pay the players but it was stated before, the company didn't have profits to pay after being a victim of the hacking incident.

On a separate note, the vast majority of players received payment, in some cases in full. Not only that, these players must remember they were being staked and never put at risk there own money. The poker farm, including investors and plenty of employees were the ones who got hurt the most by this incident which led to the staking business being forced to close. The players have to acknowledge that they were part of an unfortunate incident that left some of them partially out of pocket from a months play, nothing that was in the hands of the poker farms control. We had no obligation to pay these players who were staked by us in the first place with money we no longer had.

Friends of mine worked in the borehamwood office and I called in there regularly And grinded with them outside of the office too when they would be playing for themselves.

Their team leader (Not sure the correct title he had) Played many comps online on behalf of James Bord. I watched he go deep in an FTOPS event in the office and left before he had completed play. On arriving at my friends a short time later I searched the username he was using and railed him to the final table. A couple of days later I was grinding at the same house with a PFarm employee and he said "X" was deep again (in an FTOPS again I think) So I searched the username in my search but couldnt find player. I asked my friend why I could find him and he said he's playing on a different account and gave me the username. I railed him and he again finished deep. I asked why he was playing someone elses account and was told it was because it was an account with funds in it and "he normally plays whichever account has money in it"

I have the names of the people concerned and will wait for PFarm to comment before making public.

They may have a good excuse

Have downloaded. What section is it in?

No evidence of a UKIPT statement whatsoever

The poker farm only staked players on Ipoker, micro gaming, merge and cake. This is a fact and can be verified by any one of our ex players.

If 20+ players are playing every day together in an office or that sort of environment do you really think it's in conceivable for those players and friends to play on other personal accounts? If they did, they did on there own accord or with there own staking/deal arrangements. This was not part of the poker farm.

As you mention above, if James was backing them personally then this is his own prerogative and agenda. What you mention above is hardly a crime and although perceived as unethical it's part and parcel of the unfortunate state and nature of the online poker industry as it stands, back then and still today.

We would not support or necessarily approve of these actions but given the circumstances and environment all these players were playing in then it's hardly inconceivable to imagine that players wont share or use friends accounts or even play tournaments together when using there personal accounts and being in the same room as on another.

We had no control or authority over there actions when playing on there own accounts, other than us trying to prohibit it as much as possible when they were being staked by us.

Just read the thread re: what Neil Channing lets slip during the podcast (and subsequent posts). Not the biggest poker scandal ever, but blatant multiaccounting and cheating.

All three (Zimbler, Feldman & Bord) of these clowns pi$$ me off...... They swank around in the poker fraternity giving it large.... you are all a bunch of jumped up little cnuts. Get in the real world - you're just trying to justify existance that you are "professional poker pleyers" then try to be business men. WFT? You've blagged & bull *****ted you way through poker so why don't you do something you're parents can be proud of? instead of scheming through life. Stop stop stop puffing smoke up your own English asses!!!!!

Just saying !!!

(Man that felt good)

You'll notice I said James bord was backing the player And the player being Arron Woodcock And one of the other accounts he would use was James Bord's account Whether he had any results on Bordys account I dont know but I'll be sure to get these account names and then we can see if the forum still thinks its "hardly a crime" that a very successful MTT player is making final tables of FTOPS on an account that has bad/no MTT stats

Thanks for your prompt response and as you obviously have ruled out the PFarms involvement So just the people named may wish to comment now

What's being English got to do with it?