Ivey's $1m Vegetarian prop bet (is now over) - Page 11 - Poker News

SABR42 · 03-01-2010, 09:41 PM

As a former meat-lover who's now a vegetarian for 18 months, this is way too easy if you have any sort of willpower or moral conviction.

F Retard · 03-01-2010, 09:47 PM

lol @ u bustos saying u would take 50,000 to do it. Some of you would take a 10 dollar transfer on full tilt.

Not an easy bet, word is Ivey is already trying to buy out of the bet

Fjellabe · 03-01-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexcny

It's a pretty easy bet for Ivey.

Me and my girlfriend at the time decided to try and see how long we could both go without eating meat. So I went from eating meat at nearly every meal to eating absolutely no meat. Honestly wasn't really all that hard. You figure out what foods you like that don't have meat pretty quickly and you learn how to adjust your diet. I haven't eaten meat in a little over 3 years and I've never really struggled that hard with cravings for meat.

If Ivey spends like 150k of the money and hires a really good vegetarian chef to cook all of his meals it would be the easiest 850k ever made.

Or he could pay for a $500 vegan cooking class for his existing chef and its the easiest $999.5k he's ever made :P

LBC213 · 03-01-2010, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by katmanx

i see every1 thinks this is a easy bet for Ivey.
i want 1.2 ods, and il take Durr's side.

and if any of them backs out. you pay me/or i pay you the same proportion of % they gave each other.

I AM SERIOUS!
dont want to bet a loot but i can do a decent sum.
maybe 100-1k-2k maybe more if i have good ods.

I'll lay you at 1.2

Tw33Ty · 03-01-2010, 11:31 PM

I would not take this bet for a million a year, for life, with 1 million to 1 odds on my $1 bet.

OMGLillianLee · 03-02-2010, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexcny

If Ivey spends like 150k of the money and hires a really good vegetarian chef to cook all of his meals it would be the easiest 850k ever made.

You got a point. Maybe 1 million is too much money to not do it. I wonder if he would take the bet for 50k or so. I'm really not sure he would.

**Bigdaddydvo** · 03-02-2010, 01:29 AM

I'm a level 5 vegan. I won't eat anything that casts a shadow.

MackB2 · 03-02-2010, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Giblet

I have not eaten MEAT or FISH or any other aniaml for many many years.

It is easy. If anyone has had the addiction of the cigarettes, or the booze or the more harder drugs, then giving up meat is like nothing .

Sugar, and bread is though difficult to not consume.

And, one can eat Pizza and Cake and Drink bottles of wine and bottles of Cola.

It need not be a healthy diet.

I UNDERSTAND I HAVE MADE THE CLAIM THAT I WOULD NOT POST HERE AFTER I WAS RUDELY BANNED BY SOME CHARACTER, YET THIS IS INTERESTS ME.

I hope Mr. Ivey chooses to never eat meat or animal product again.

If someone had given me money for not eating Animal Products I would be Richer than King Solomon.

Thank You.

LOL

bjornb · 03-02-2010, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Aziraphael

Man, that guy doesn't seem to get pleasure or sadness from anything. He loses a $1.1M pot and he is totally level. Makes for a great poker player, but I wonder what he REALLY loves doing.

Rolling dice.

captZEEbo · 03-02-2010, 02:30 AM

These threads always make me laugh because nobody understands simple economic concepts, such as: the more money you have, the less money means to you. Example: if someone paid me $5 to not eat meat for a year, I could easily not eat meat for a year, but the motivation to do it does not exist. For Ivey, someone that bets $200k on the roll of a dice in craps for entertainment, 1 million is probably borderline not enough motivation for him to keep the bet for a full year, which is what Dwan's betting on. Whether or not it's a good bet is pretty hard for us to gauge, knowing relatively nothing about Ivey's bankroll, respect of 1 million dollars, eating habits, past prop betting history, etc. Either way, I'd guess the EV of the bet can't be more than +/-100k or so. Either way it can't be too bad of a bet if Ivey is trying to buy out (meaning Dwan was almost certainly right to make the bet in the first place, but is trying for even more money / laughs

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Originally Posted by MicroBob

I think the bet shows the lack of life experience of durr. For him to think this is a reasonable bet to make I think he would have to be unaware of the thousands of people who do this just on their own without any other motivation but their own interests in going without meat.

I eat a lot of meat. But I also have known a fair amount of vegetarians and know that it just isn't such an uncommon thing and I also know that I could win such a bet pretty easily.

It kind of reminds me of whatever thread viffer started where he was trying to make a bet about living in a midwest city for a month or a year or whatever in which he was acting like this would be a particularly impressive thing to do somehow.

Obviously the task of going vegetarian is not a particularly difficult task, just like viffer's living in a boring midwest city for a short amount of time, but these types of prop bets are all about a given person's breaking point wrt money vs thing they're betting on. They're not really trying to do some monumentally awesome/difficult thing in general, but rather they're doing something tough for the SPECIFIC PERSON betting wrt to their value of the amount bet. It's just one person betting they they could do something out of their own personal comfort zone for $X, and another person disagreeing with it. I mean, do you really think anyone betting against in these situations isn't aware that lots of people live in boring Midwest cities or that lots of people eat vegetarian for a year?

cliffs: everyone in this thread thinks 1 million is enough motivation for Ivey to easily go vegetarian for a year, but it's really like betting a few hundred (or random small amount) for everyone in this thread.

BraveJayhawk · 03-02-2010, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by captZEEbo

These threads always make me laugh because nobody understands simple economic concepts, such as: the more money you have, the less money means to you. Example: if someone paid me $5 to not eat meat for a year, I could easily not eat meat for a year, but the motivation to do it does not exist. For Ivey, someone that bets $200k on the roll of a dice in craps for entertainment, 1 million is probably borderline not enough motivation for him to keep the bet for a full year, which is what Dwan's betting on. Whether or not it's a good bet is pretty hard for us to gauge, knowing relatively nothing about Ivey's bankroll, respect of 1 million dollars, eating habits, past prop betting history, etc. Either way, I'd guess the EV of the bet can't be more than +/-100k or so. Either way it can't be too bad of a bet if Ivey is trying to buy out (meaning Dwan was almost certainly right to make the bet in the first place, but is trying for even more money / laughs

).

Obviously the task of going vegetarian is not a particularly difficult task, just like viffer's living in a boring midwest city for a short amount of time, but these types of prop bets are all about a given person's breaking point wrt money vs thing they're betting on. They're not really trying to do some monumentally awesome/difficult thing in general, but rather they're doing something tough for the SPECIFIC PERSON betting wrt to their value of the amount bet. It's just one person betting they they could do something out of their own personal comfort zone for $X, and another person disagreeing with it. I mean, do you really think anyone betting against in these situations isn't aware that lots of people live in boring Midwest cities or that lots of people eat vegetarian for a year?

cliffs: everyone in this thread thinks 1 million is enough motivation for Ivey to easily go vegetarian for a year, but it's really like betting a few hundred (or random small amount) for everyone in this thread.

Very good post. I insta thought this was a great bet by durrr. We also have to account for the accidental eating of banned foods and the pressure of constantly being around people eating those delicious foods.

I'm sure it won't be long before there's a thread w/ pictures taken from Bobby's Room and the extraordinary buffet that is taking place in there. PI will either go on Tilt and leave, he'll go on Tilt and continue to play in not such the best mindset OR he'll cave and just give up on the bet, crave his thirst for a few delights and then go back to the game and the rest of his life.

Lana_Lang · 03-02-2010, 04:04 AM

the french does not only eat them rare, they are ****ing insanely rare

. All the chefs do is to put the pan on v-v-v-high heat and flip the meat after 20 sec so it gets a little bit of color on both sides.

When you cut it blood pooring all over your plate, however the french really does know their food imo, it is just a bit tough on your stomach the first times.

BoyItalia · 03-02-2010, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stompin

indian buffet everyday no prob

I could survive on daal, rice, channa, aloo ghobi, naan and saag easy mil

This. You can also get veggie Falafels which are the business

gdaylinz · 03-02-2010, 04:17 AM

I got a lot of faith that Phil Ivey can do it. He's tough as nails.
Besides, he's got the money to hire his own personal chef. Eating vegan/vegetarian is super easy if you have an expert cooking really good food for you. I've been vegan for two months and before that I was vegetarian for a year. There are so many meat alternatives and meat replacement soy products and dairy replacements now. Obv I'd take the beat in a heartbeat.

kzk · 03-02-2010, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigdaddydvo

I'm a level 5 vegan. I won't eat anything that casts a shadow.

can you do any exercise without die?