Interesting (heated) discussion on QJ's Radio with Negreanu, Savage and Matusow shoots on FTP - Poker News

There's an interesting heated debate going on right now between the two about the no talk rule. I've never heard Daniel talk so forthrightly and passionately (read that as he be mad bro).
http://www.quadjacks.com/radio/

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07-29-2011 , 08:47 PM

1outter

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He said the "f" word. And just told Matt to "stop being an idiot"

he mad, confirmed.

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07-29-2011 , 08:49 PM

MICK E JUICE

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Arguin like a coupla school kids

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07-29-2011 , 08:51 PM

kittykatt

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Originally Posted by MICK E JUICE

Arguin like a coupla school kids

To be fair Matt Savage is keeping his cool and trying not to get dragged into petty arguing.

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07-29-2011 , 08:52 PM

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^ I agree. DN is losing his cool, and going in circles. Keeps using Helmuth as an example???? lol

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07-29-2011 , 08:55 PM

Witzo

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DN is hyper and arguing with rage. Would be more effective if he was calm. Still think he's right.

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07-29-2011 , 08:56 PM

gnvsnnkv

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Can we please see a poll already?

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07-29-2011 , 08:59 PM

O dear

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Shhhh

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07-29-2011 , 08:59 PM

jjjjudas

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Negreanu always always thinks he's right! So stubborn

EDIT: not saying he isn't right here. But tries to shout over. Calm down Negreanu

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07-29-2011 , 09:02 PM

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Rigged poll.

I disagree with the rule, but at the same time I find it difficult to side with Negreanu in this case. He's going in circles and losing his cool!

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07-29-2011 , 09:06 PM

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cdn_golfer88

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I think the real issue that DN is TRYING to get across is that this is one of those rules that every TD can interpret differently from tournament to tournament as well as for each situation within the tournament. This type of situations leave the player in a difficult situation as they never know how the talk will be interpretted. Rules need to be clear, black or white with minimal interpretation required by the TD who can put their personal bia on the situation.

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07-29-2011 , 09:10 PM

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Daniel "you don't care about catching cheaters"
Savage "thanks Daniel "
Daniel "I never said you didn't care about catching cheaters"

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07-29-2011 , 09:10 PM

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ThatDutchGuy

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Negreanu is right, the rule is completely over the top.

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07-29-2011 , 09:11 PM

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I agree, cdn golfer. There's way too much open for interpretation here. Now that Daniel has gathered himself back up, I'm finding it way easier to side with him.

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07-29-2011 , 09:13 PM

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jjjjudas

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Is Savage gonna cry? Sounds well upset?

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07-29-2011 , 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatDutchGuy

Negreanu is right, the rule is completely over the top.

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07-29-2011 , 09:16 PM

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xmykro

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Savage is stubborn. He is flop flopping. And he doesn't understand what Daniel is trying to say. Daniel IS NOT trying to make verbal collusion legal. It will still be penalized!

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07-29-2011 , 09:17 PM

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I don't like agreeing with DN but I think he's right. I guess the problem is that it's inconsistent and shouldn't be left to interpretation.

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07-29-2011 , 09:17 PM

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Savage is just trolling no way he can be serious.

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07-29-2011 , 09:27 PM

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The rule is badly worded/interpreted and removes far too much of the meta game. The idea that it prevents collusion is flawed. Daniel may be angry, but it doesn't stop him being right.

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07-29-2011 , 09:31 PM

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LiveNow

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is he on cocaine?

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07-29-2011 , 09:33 PM

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random user

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Wonder what Daniel thinks the plan for the epic poker league is?

License tiltware's software somewhere down the line?

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07-29-2011 , 09:46 PM

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jjjjudas

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Excellent Matusow on the line!!! SICK!

EDIT: HAHAHA He just said 'I know you hate Annie!' Brilliant

DOUBLE MERGED EDIT: Is Matusow p***ed?!

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07-29-2011 , 09:49 PM

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caseycjc

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Conflict of interest for DN regarding Stars

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07-29-2011 , 09:50 PM

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ThatDutchGuy

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lol Matusow sounds pretty drunk

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