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View Poll Results: Should the 50K Horse final table be HORSE or No Limit
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HORSE, as it is now
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No Limit as it was in the first year
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06-27-2009, 03:31 PM
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veteran
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
I agree with Chainsaw.
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06-27-2009, 03:32 PM
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#77
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old hand
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
HIgher expectation in limit games. If Ive built up chips that way, I can play the limit games and try to continue building at the final table. I don't like my chances of winning race after race against NL players.
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youre basically "flipping" in you limit games as well.
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06-27-2009, 04:04 PM
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#78
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banned
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
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06-27-2009, 04:10 PM
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#79
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veteran
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Why should the world championship HORSE event be decided by a game that's not even in the HORSE rotation?
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surely this is
/thread
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06-27-2009, 04:14 PM
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#80
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
call it "ultimate gigantic 50k mixed event" and make it a NLHE final table.
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06-27-2009, 04:15 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
allen why do you post serious discussions in here? NVG is full of people who will never play a $50 horse let alone a $50k.
seriously, this is a thread for MTTC not NVG.
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06-27-2009, 04:24 PM
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#82
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
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Originally Posted by sketchy1
allen why do you post serious discussions in here? NVG is full of people who will never play a $50 horse let alone a $50k.
seriously, this is a thread for MTTC not NVG.
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I guess that decision was sketchy, although this was my view on the topic so I thought it belonged here?
Do these posters really have less than $50 bankrolls? Some seem to have rather valid arguments.
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06-27-2009, 04:32 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
more often then not, i disagree with most DN comments on this board and his blogs but i will always appreciate the fact that he's willing to take the time to share his opinion. Even if you argue his motivation is greed, i doubt he needs to go out on a limb as much as he does in order to get his endorsement deals.
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06-27-2009, 04:34 PM
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#84
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old hand
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
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Originally Posted by chrismystero
-1 to this
The special thing about this tournament is that it IS the $50k HORSE. They have other smaller buy-in HORSE events at the WSOP already.
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Sure but if the number of runners keeps going down will this tourney still be "special" ? What if it gets down to 50 people? Wouldnt it just go away at a certain point if it has problems drawing?
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Think of the CASUAL ESPN viewer. You think they know who Vitaly Lunkin, Isaac Haxton, Dani Stern, Justin Bonomo, Alec Torrelli, Lex Valdihuis IS?
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And if poker TV wants to survive ( i dont know if it can) they need to create new stars. In 2002/2003 there were no poker tv stars until they were created. What i dont understand is why is that only people that hit in 2003/2004 matter and no one else does?
Poker Tv needs to think long term and create new stars.
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06-27-2009, 04:39 PM
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#85
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grinder
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
This thread is so uber annoying lol. Ok doesn't anyone remeber the TOC created by Mike Sexton? It was a unique event designed to test all around skill. Players played Stud, Omaha H/L and Limit Hold'em until they reached the money. Then, the event switched to NL hold'em and played out from there.
The 50K Players championship at the WSOP, you can call it HORSE, but that's not what the event was designed to be, replicates that to some extent. I could understand some of the outlandish arguments if the event was ALWAYS straight HORSE, but that's NOT the case!!!! The event was ALWAYS supposed to me a mix of limit to get to the FT, and then NL when you get there.
Also, for those too dense to understand the ramifications of the event not being on television, look at the type of players that would NORMALLY play if their sponsors put up money, but didn't. That creates value for ALL of the players since the majority of the sponsored players are -EV. Has nothing to do with "being on TV", but has everything to do with sponsorship dollars that are gone from the event.
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06-27-2009, 04:40 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
Limit poker is ****, boring to watch, boring to play. They should make it pot-limit HORSE, or better yet HOORSE with PLO, then we'll have a big buy-in event that will generate some excitement. The fact that sign-ups for this event are way down tells me that many people agree with me, and this event needs to be altered or scrapped entirely.
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06-27-2009, 04:43 PM
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banned
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
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Originally Posted by sketchy1
allen why do you post serious discussions in here? NVG is full of people who will never play a $50 horse let alone a $50k.
seriously, this is a thread for MTTC not NVG.
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people who have money over people with brains without having money though
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06-27-2009, 04:47 PM
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#88
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veteran
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
This reminds me of a backgammon tournament I played a couple of years back. I played my A game, start to finish. After battling through 8 opponents over 3 days I made the final. However I was disapointed when I discovered that 'to draw a crowd' the final had been changed to thai kick boxing. Having no legs put me at a severe disadvantage, needless to say I lost.
On the plus side, four people did watch me get pounded into the ground, I find it highly unlikely that any of these people would have watched if the backgammon format would have been used for the final, so I am now a strong supporter of this format
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06-27-2009, 04:49 PM
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#89
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
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Originally Posted by FancyAburger
people who have money over people with brains without having money though
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wat
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06-27-2009, 04:49 PM
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#90
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event
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Originally Posted by Daniel Negreanu
Also, for those too dense to understand the ramifications of the event not being on television, look at the type of players that would NORMALLY play if their sponsors put up money, but didn't. That creates value for ALL of the players since the majority of the sponsored players are -EV. Has nothing to do with "being on TV", but has everything to do with sponsorship dollars that are gone from the event.
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This is a pretty awesome paragraph.
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