1. http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited/
Sharkscope (including the Sharkscope HUD) is on the list of prohibited while playing. We all know that people use the Sharkscope HUD while playing, so I think the steroid parallel is appropriate.

2. (a.) Huge is debatable, but there's at least a perceived advantage, or people wouldn't pay for the services. When playing live, would you rather have a perfect recollection of how often a person 3bets when facing a 3bet w/ 1010?
(b.) Information everyone has is not true, as only people who pay for the service have access to all of the information.
(c.) People very well might play worse, but using this logic airbags, seatbelts and ABS are unsafe because people take more risks in cars equipped with them.

Who gives a **** about these parameters except you and your multi-millionaire, cheating, illegal Internet friends?

And you guys don't even put up the ****ing money. No wonder you want more, higher, and bigger. More TV time for I, me and I.

Wouldn't quite have put it that way.

Never the less, I agree with the point here...


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(semi-grunching)

if they want tv ratings for the ft they need topless dealers, not nlh

+1 for the 7-game or 8-game idea

Daniel's argument for the format is so that H.O.R.S.E. can be more popular, and attracting a large player base.

I can see his point, but I think they should just introduce a new type of game for that then, instead of modifying H.O.R.S.E. Can't they just edit the hands to have a higher percentage of NLHE if it's for ratings anyway?

Outside of actual structures Daniel is usually wrong about most things,

The problems with Horse is not that limit games are bad, but the editing of them are bad, the constant switching between games after almost every hand televised is difficult to deal with and as I've said before Norman Chad has no business broadcasting poker, he brings **NOTHING** to the table. If you listen to his interview on poker road, he doesn't want to learn, he's just there to MC, well this isn't a fraking gameshow. If the the dude broadcasting it is too lazy to educated himself then how can he possibly help grow the game if he's unwilling to grow personally ?

Get people that can cover the games, edit them in a way that has more consistency maybe 2-3 hands before the elimination, then change games to the next game where the next elimination takes place make the final table coverage 3 hours for Horse. FWIW having Scotty soft play and act like dooche and Freddy Deeb just being boring the year he won doesn't really help matters

411 productions is stogy in their format, it will be interesting to see how 2 hours (that right 2 hours) of each day 1 coverage goes. Wake me up when they get to the money bubble, I can hardly wait for Norman Chad Celebrity apprentice with Anne Duke (any questions about UB there Norm?? mmmm No) How about Norm Chad poker player Jeopardy.... (woo hoo) and lets not mention Norm Chad Dunk tank with Phil Hellmuth (again no UB Questions norm ??? ) please shameless pro ass kissing is not a way to grow the sport...

Just got the new Inside Poker magazine through my door this morning and read the following in an interview with DN:
(no link so gonna copy the relevant part the old fashioned way)

IP: You've been pretty vocal about the reasons for the low turn out for the H.O.R.S.E. what happened?

DN: The biggest mistake we made was calling it H.O.R.S.E. in the first place. If we called it the $50k Players Championship, then we could have just kept it the way it was: H.O.R.S.E. and then no limit at the final table. It satisfies the players in terms of having the chance to play all the games. It satisfies ESPN because they get to show something on television that does get high ratings and they guarantee that they'll have 'name' players there. What I think we should do is change it to the Chip Reese Memorial event' make it an eight-game mix all the way to the final table, and a no-limit hold'em final table. It's about creating a prestigious event that all the players are geared up for.

All sounds familiar I thought...



[x] went to too much trouble to make thin brag.
[x] expecting call from Harrah's/ESPN/Players committee to arrange WSOP'10.

only because his name was mentioned in the blog and he wanted people to see it.

I generally find myself agreeing with Daniel a lot. When I heard him on the 2+2 pokercast, I remember thinking I agreed with almost everything he said.

But I have to disagree with him in this spot. The tournament is a HORSE tournament and it is silly to change the format at the finally table just for TV ratings.

im getting in late on this, but **** tv and **** ratings

there are a billion shows where people can watch luckbox donks go all in

You kinda missed the point.

1) It was mistakenly called a HORSE Tournament. It wasnt supposed to be but was mislabeled from day one.

2) The original intention was to create a best of the best mix game tournament with final table being NLHE. That happened on Year 1. Year 2 people forgot what the original point was and changed the rules to make it HORSE all the way through.

SOLUTION:

1) Rename event to "Players Championship" or whatever else the marketing wizzes come up with.

2) Keep the HORSE event for people who want a HORSE event, but lower the entry to $5k or $10k if you want it to be a HORSE Championship.


The above has already been discussed ad nauseam in preceding posts.

Daniel thinks poker is a TV show.

He achieved a lot in poker. He even took a shot at the Big Game, but quit after a while because of the variance IIRC. But he's not a poker pro any more: he's a TV pro. He makes his money from being famous, not playing poker.

For him, maybe poker being a TV show is better: he'd get more air time.

But there are a lot of us that see poker as competition, and a way to make money in it's own right. And if we made it just a reality or game show, that would start a long, slow decline in poker. Like NASCAR has declined since they instituted that "race to the cup" or whatever that stupid thing is. So it's upsetting to me that the company with the contract to broadcast the WSOP, ESPN, already has it half way to a reality show. As opposed to football, which they broadcast seriously, as if has merit in its own right (I think poker does too).

Daniel is convinced that he's right and we're all wrong on this one. And that Iran should be able to pursue their nuclear program unfettered. He has a shortsighted view of things.

You're right, it does seem "stupid"...
But the actual problem being addressed here...
Is the lack of a LEGIT poker World Championship...
Is seriously hurting the game.

The ME is a total joke...
So Ivey made the FT with a 3% chance of winning...
Big Deal.

HORSE is like watching paint dry...
For everyone except about 5,000 people in the world...
And the event is dying...
So you play down the field with HORSE...
But make the FT NLHE...
And insta-create a World Championship FT with Name Pros...
With over the top TV ratings...
And finally put that idiotic 6,000 amateur ME...
Which is nothing more than a Harrah's Skimming Racket...
Out of business.

The 40k?