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View Poll Results: Should the 50K Horse final table be HORSE or No Limit
HORSE, as it is now 858 77.09%
No Limit as it was in the first year 255 22.91%
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:29 PM   #16
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event

Disagree with DN. I think the lack of ratings are for poker in general, not just because it is a mixed event. Will it help the ratings if the table in NL? Surely a little bit, but not enough to justify doing so.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:30 PM   #17
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event

Daniel comes off as such a douche and egomaniac in that blog post.....all he seems concerned with is getting on TV so he can act his part and be utterly annoying as always....it is a HORSE tournament and to change it up at the final table is retarded
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:31 PM   #18
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event

I mean im not going to be playing in this Tourney anytime soon so maybe it does not matter what I think.

BUT i think a better idea than switching to NL at the final table is just lower the buyin to 25-30k. Id bet you get at least 40-100 more people than keeping it at a non televised 50k event. Still not going to get on TV but at least it keeps the Tournament going.

With ESPN already showing the 40k and if the 40k nl sticks around i dont get the point in making the HORSE a NL final table.

A HORSE tournament should be a HORSE tourney.

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Old 06-27-2009, 01:34 PM   #19
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event

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I cracked up when I read the first line of Daniel's blog entry: "I don't make all the decisions regarding the WSOP."

Like anyone thought he did.
Did anyone check to see if there was a white-font ", unfortunately" after that line ?

DN is a sophist. He decides what's best for him and then cooks up a load of bogus arguments to try to convince everyone else. Occasionally what he says is right, just by the law of averages. In this case (and I never thought I'd say this but DN v Chainsaw is like the unstoppable force and the immovable object of wrongness) I agree with Chainsaw.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:35 PM   #20
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event

The only merit in a NL final table is more TV exposure = more fish.

Best case scenario is HORSE final table with HORSE structure, meaning more people coming online to play mixed.

This, however, is obviously just not an option to ESPN.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:35 PM   #21
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event

Get rid of HORSE and make it 8-Game if you want the FT to be NL.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:37 PM   #22
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event

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Switching games at the final table just for TV ratings is really dumb. At least Daniel is honest about his motivation.

I think being on TV is much more valuable to DN than the other players. No one is going to sign "the chainsaw" no matter what he wins or how much he is on TV. He's just a much more marketable person than the average players, but no need to get greedy and change tournaments around just he can be on TV more.
Obv you missed the point.

NL final table = Televised = Sponsors pay the 50k buy-in = MORE PEOPLE = Better ratings = Win for poker, ESPN, and the ppl who couldn't afford to buy in.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:39 PM   #23
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Obv you missed the point.

NL final table = Televised = Sponsors pay the 50k buy-in = MORE PEOPLE = Better ratings = Win for poker, ESPN, and the ppl who couldn't afford to buy in.
or those same people could just go into the 40k event which is being shown on ESPN anyway yeah??
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:39 PM   #24
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event

There was a 40k NL event that didn't get televised. Surely that shows the demand for televised tournament poker
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:39 PM   #25
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event

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Obv you missed the point.

NL final table = Televised = Sponsors pay the 50k buy-in = MORE PEOPLE = Better ratings = Win for poker, ESPN, and the ppl who couldn't afford to buy in.
as well as completely lose the integrity of the entire tournament

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Old 06-27-2009, 01:41 PM   #26
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event

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BUT i think a better idea than switching to NL at the final table is just lower the buyin to 25-30k. Id bet you get at least 40-100 more people than keeping it at a non televised 50k event.
-1 to this

The special thing about this tournament is that it IS the $50k HORSE. They have other smaller buy-in HORSE events at the WSOP already.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:42 PM   #27
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event

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There was a 40k NL event that didn't get televised.
There wasn't.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:42 PM   #28
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Re: I Disagree with Daniel Negreanu This is a 50K HORSE tourney not another NL Event

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Why should the world championship HORSE event be decided by a game that's not even in the HORSE rotation?
this obv
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:42 PM   #29
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as well as completely lose the integrety of the entire tournament
So, when Chip won it, we shouldn't count that. I see.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:44 PM   #30
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or those same people could just go into the 40k event which is being shown on ESPN anyway yeah??
No, because NL is such a crap shoot, you do not get the same concentration of the best players at the final table at a 40k NL as you do in the 50k horse.
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