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11-25-2014 , 07:25 PM
How many people have been to stopinternetgambling's website? How many people have taken a look at their robo email? How many people realize you can customize (meaning change) what their email says before you send it? I think we should use their site to send emails asking our Congressmen to stop Stop.
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11-25-2014 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc T River
How many people have been to stopinternetgambling's website? How many people have taken a look at their robo email? How many people realize you can customize (meaning change) what their email says before you send it? I think we should use their site to send emails asking our Congressmen to stop Stop.
hahaha thats a great idea. Below is a pre-written letter from the PPA website. If you want to write your own letter, that would be even better.



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As a voter, taxpaying constituent, and poker enthusiast, I am writing to request that you oppose S.2159 and H.R. 4301. Both bills, recently introduced in the U.S. House and U.S. Senate, seek to ban Internet poker throughout America by expanding the Wire Act. These bills are an affront to states' rights and constitute an egregious federal overreach. Additionally, this type of legislation tramples on my individual liberties while leaving consumers completely unprotected in an unregulated market.

Three states -- New Jersey, Delaware, and Nevada -- have already exercised their rights in this area. Their legally authorized Internet poker sites provide a safe and well regulated market for adults to enjoy this great American game of skill. S. 2159 and H.B. 4301 would, with complete disregard for the rights of these states, force a federal shutdown of these sites.

As you know, in 2011 the U.S. Department of Justice, after careful review of relevant case law and legislative history, found that the Wire Act of 1961 bans only telecommunicated interstate sports betting. I concur that this is the correct interpretation regarding online poker. If it were not, prohibitionists would not be seeking to amend its language.

States are uniquely qualified to protect their residents by implementing and enforcing stringent consumer protection standards. These yield far more effective consumer protection than a federal ban could ever hope to provide. For example, technologies exist and are used successfully in the U.S. and Europe to verify the identity, age and location of players; to identify problem gamblers and refer them to treatment; and to detect money laundering. In fact, comprehensive research on the issue concludes that online poker operators have more effective and sophisticated tools to prevent and combat problem gaming than brick-and-mortar casinos.

Regulation also allows our elected officials to implement strong regulations to thwart fraud and abuse of customers and collect much-needed revenue that is currently being sent offshore.

73% of Americans say the current state-by-state approach, either by states passing legislation directly or by choosing to participate in a federal system, is preferable to a federal ban. I encourage you to review this important polling: http://c4cop.com/wp-content/uploads/...aming-Memo.pdf

I look forward to your response on this issue. I, along with my over one million fellow Poker Players Alliance members, hope you will oppose this misguided attempt at prohibition. Thank you.
Everybody, please send this letter through the http://stopinternetgambling.com/take-action/ webpage and please use valid personal information! Remember to change the email subject from "Stop Internet Gambling" to "Support Internet Gambling"




Last edited by burnJa; 11-25-2014 at 08:05 PM.
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11-25-2014 , 08:06 PM
Only bad thing is you have to give them an email address. Not sure what would happen if you gave a bogus one.
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11-25-2014 , 08:08 PM
I gave them one of my spam emails, but I also gave them my real name, address and phone number.

Please, everyone, give them your real info so they don't think its a bot ring or something
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11-25-2014 , 09:33 PM
Huckabee is deep in makeup with his local buffet.
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11-26-2014 , 12:30 AM
I'll give more details when I am on my desktop, but Huckabee did write something in A Simple Government that can be used to question his support of the Stop folks. Basically, it is Huckabee saying that parents need to be able to decide what is best for their children. He also talks about people at lower levels being better informed as to what they need as opposed to those in Washington deciding what they need.
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11-26-2014 , 08:57 AM
"....They [those in Washington] don't know you, and they don't understand the needs of your community like you do.....And the bigger we allow our federal government to become, the worse the problems become."

"Every time Washington enacts a new law or mandate, you can be sure that the states, the private sector, and the people are left with less control over their destinies.....whenever the federal government accumulates more power, the states and the people inevitably lose some autonomy they previously had. Eventually, we can lose our way entirely."

Mike Huckabee, A Simple Government

Last edited by Doc T River; 11-26-2014 at 09:09 AM. Reason: Actually, he wrote quite a few things.
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11-26-2014 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc T River
How many people have been to stopinternetgambling's website? How many people have taken a look at their robo email? How many people realize you can customize (meaning change) what their email says before you send it? I think we should use their site to send emails asking our Congressmen to stop Stop.
I believe this is a very bad idea. I doubt that the content of each email will be read but SIG or others. One thing that may happen is they can claim X number of people used their form to tell congress to stop internet gambling. Using their website in this fashion only helps them increase that number.

Just use the tools already provided by the PPA at http://theppa.org/fight-the-ban/
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11-26-2014 , 09:09 AM
Blanche Lincoln lost reelection by a landslide because she is an idiot. Huckabee will never because president because he is also an idiot
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11-26-2014 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bjsmith22
I mean come on, seriously? You guys live in a country where a CASINO magnate is allowed to come out AGAINST a form of GAMBLING and your politicians don't laugh in his face. Yet, you think you can somehow reason with those very same politicians.
It is hard to laugh in the face of the person who feeds you big campaign contributions.
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11-26-2014 , 09:48 AM
One thing I found laughable about Blanche Lincoln's speech was her saying that only one member of Congress who supported RAWA lost in the election. This implies that RAWA was an issue that voters cared about. I doubt enough people knew about RAWA to make a difference in the election results.

I don't know if they are related, but Honest Abe would be ashamed of Blanche.

Last edited by Doc T River; 11-26-2014 at 09:48 AM. Reason: I found a lot of things laughable.
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11-26-2014 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
Blanche Lincoln lost reelection by a landslide because she is an idiot. Huckabee will never because president because he is also an idiot
A lot of idiots have been president.
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11-26-2014 , 02:04 PM
Here are three different arguments to make based on the other person's beliefs.

If someone proclaims they believe in personal responsibility, ask them which would allow someone to show personal responsibility. The government telling them they can't do something or the government allowing them the choice as to whether to do something or not.

If someone says they are doing it to protect people, ask them which way would protect people better. Government banning an activity which forces people into a black market or government regulating an activity which lets people participate in an open market.

If someone says they are doing it for religious reasons, point out that is against the Constitution. Also, ask them to show EXACTLY where in The Bible it says gambling is wrong.
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11-26-2014 , 02:17 PM
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11-26-2014 , 02:55 PM
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I understand.
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11-26-2014 , 03:10 PM
"...Blanche Lincoln, who rebounded from her 2010 landslide defeat to work with the Coalition to Stop Internet Gambling..."
Fixing the quote...
"...Blanche Lincoln who was defeated in a 2010 landslide, started K Street lobbying firm, Lincoln Policy Group and is paid by the Coalition to Stop Internet Gambling as is every other so-called advocate that belongs to the so-called coalition."
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11-27-2014 , 03:05 PM
If I could talk to Blanche Lincoln, I would ask her if she knows the name of the lady whose son stole $20,000; if she didn't know you do have recourse when an unathorized relative uses a credit card and such recourse includes not paying the credit card company; to name the casinos that have psychiatrists on duty for patrons; and, I would ask her for proof that geolocation doesn't work.
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11-27-2014 , 04:27 PM
You should also ask if we can ban all internet commerce, general transportation, fire arms, silver wear, stoves, and a few other things on my radar that hurt children more than poker.
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11-27-2014 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gdsfather
You should also ask if we can ban all internet commerce, general transportation, fire arms, silver wear, stoves, and a few other things on my radar that hurt children more than poker.
I would frame it by first asking how far she thinks we should go in protecting children then I would bring up some of the things on your list. If she said it was a parent's job to protect against fire arms and such, I would ask why the internet was different. With or without waiting for a response, I would ask if it was because she was getting paid?

I don't care if she is insulted as I don't think paid hacks who lie are entitled to feel insulted.

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11-27-2014 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc T River
A lot of idiots have been president.
yes, depending on who you ask, the last three for example....
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11-27-2014 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth
Hi Everyone:

These posts were moved to our News, Views, and Gossip Forum because I just happened to see the Huckabee show and couldn't believe this incredibly inaccurate segment with Blanche Lincoln. So I think our answer is to send emails, tweets, etc. towards Huckabee and his show explaining why much of what was said is just ridiculous.

As an example, I think Lincoln states that some kid gambled away $220,000 on a parent's credit card which to me seems crazy since credit card companies will usually contact you when a bunch of unusual charges appear and aren't most credit cards not possible to use on gambling sites, plus a number of other reasons.

Anyway, I'm hoping TheEngineer can come into this thread and give some guidance as to what we should say and where we should send it. And in the meantime, as kdub72 says in a post above, please keep everything sent out civil.

Best wishes,
Mason
Thanks Mason. This is a tough one. Huckabee is a committed opponent who would ban online poker by any means necessary. There's no Tenth Amendment protection in his mind, and states' rights would never trump the federal goverment's ability to legislate morality (again in his mind).

We had a couple of DAP actions where we posted on his FB wall, and we may be able to use this to push for a visit on another FoxNews show (but unlikely Huckabee's...he doesn't like opposing views).
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11-27-2014 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
Thanks Mason. This is a tough one. Huckabee is a committed opponent who would ban online poker by any means necessary. There's no Tenth Amendment protection in his mind, and states' rights would never trump the federal goverment's ability to legislate morality (again in his mind).

We had a couple of DAP actions where we posted on his FB wall, and we may be able to use this to push for a visit on another FoxNews show (but unlikely Huckabee's...he doesn't like opposing views).
Is his opposition because of Adelson?
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11-27-2014 , 07:46 PM
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Is his opposition because of Adelson?
No. He opposes gaming in general. He opposed online poker strongly during the 2008 presidential race, earning an F rating from me.
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11-27-2014 , 08:25 PM
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No. He opposes gaming in general. He opposed online poker strongly during the 2008 presidential race, earning an F rating from me.
Huckabee is an ordained Southern Baptist minister. If there is anyone opposed to gambling of any sort, it would be the former Governor Huckabee.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/huc.../19/id/601654/
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