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07-19-2009 , 08:17 AM
i don't udnerstand waht the bet is?
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07-19-2009 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by where da ho go
lol amazing how many ppl claim to have been great runners itt

i ran a mile in like 27 seconds when i was in my mothers stomach
fail
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07-19-2009 , 08:28 AM
i just start exercising seriously for 3 months and i went from about a 12 minute mile to a 6 minute mile during that time, fwiw.
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07-19-2009 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by highlandfox
What effect will elevation have on this. Las Vegas is only 2000 ft above sea level. How many seconds faster would a 4:55 translate too at sea level.. What kind of edge would he get if he is doing training on Mt. Charleston? He then could drive to Baker or somewhere is Death Valley to actually run the race. Must be able to drop at least 5 seconds off I would guess. I imagine this is part of Huck's angle to the bet. He'll probably be running 4:45+ the day before the race is scheduled and get a bunch more action against him and then get in a car for a few hours and runs a 4:38 easily.
Huck should continue to train in Vegas, then run the race in California. Find a small 5K race(fewer than 1000 runners) and run the first mile.
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07-19-2009 , 08:47 AM
NO WAY, to break 5 min in a mile for the average athletic highschooler is tough...and once you drop to 4:50 a mile, it becomes a bitch to go any lower....4:39 at 40, Huck Seed? No chance, anyone that says hes got a shot have never ran track/cross before
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07-19-2009 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Osito47
NO WAY, to break 5 min in a mile for the average athletic highschooler is tough...and once you drop to 4:50 a mile, it becomes a bitch to go any lower....4:39 at 40, Huck Seed? No chance, anyone that says hes got a shot have never ran track/cross before
QFT
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07-19-2009 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by where da ho go
i ran a mile in like 27 seconds when i was in my mothers stomach
Your mother has some SERIOUS medical issues.
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07-19-2009 , 12:27 PM
When is this happening?
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07-19-2009 , 02:11 PM
Not sure how credible this source is, but just did a google search for 'peak running age'

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0270.htm

Couple quotes for the lazy:

"An 800- and 1500m male runner is most likely to run his fastest at around the age of 25. If you don't believe it, compare the ages of past and present world-record holders for these distances. For females, the peak is delayed to the age of 27. Why women differ in this regard is a mystery. There are, of course, exceptions to the rule but these are rare. In addition, having achieved an all-time best time at these ages, the athletes often continue for another decade with world-class times. Seb Coe, for example, ran 1:41.73/800 at age 24 and 1:43.52/800 at age 33. Steve Cram ran a mile in 3:46:32 aged 25, and 3:53.8 when he was 30."


"The age at which a male runner is most likely to run a lifetime best for 3K and SK is 27, for females, 29. . For the 10K, it is 29 and 31, respectively."

"The age of peak performance in the marathon is a little more elastic-it is between 30 and 37 years of age."
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07-19-2009 , 02:33 PM
Paramedics standing by...?
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07-19-2009 , 02:37 PM
suckered: 04:39:00.00
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07-19-2009 , 03:49 PM
I have no opinion on his ability to do this. I have followed the thread since the beginning without comment because I started running at the start of the year and was interested. I have only trained by running long sprints, followed by walking, and then sprinting again, usually for around 3 miles. I was born the same year as Huck, about 9 months younger than him.

I am primarily a weight lifter and stand about 5'11 , 197 at present, but very lean for the weight. Wrong bodytype for this type bet judging from runner physiques I see on TV in competition. I trained like this because I was interested in the intensity and muscle saving aspects of intense quick sprinting.


I hadn't timed an actual mile run in over 20 years before this thread. I was never a runner and still have never ran more than 6 miles in a single run. I tried after the start of this thread and have timed each run on the first of the month since this thread appeared just for my own curiousity because of how close in age we are.

4/1 6:06
5/1 5:44
6/1 5:22
7/1 5:16

I feel I'm getting close to the bottom number possible for me, but I think it's possible I could whiff 5 minutes by the end of the year if I wanted to get smaller and focus on it and had a huge financial incentive.

I also smoked from 1989-2004 and I'm sure that has left an impression on my lungs. I hadn't run at all for years(20) before the beginning of the year, but had been training on elipticals and such for some time.

All this is simply anecdotal and I'm sure it's incredibly hard to shave off those last 10-15 seconds assuming he is in the 4:55 range as previously stated. I'll defer to the experienced runners in that regard, but I know I wouldn't offer 33-1 on the bet because I think he could get close and wouldn't want the sweat on the wrong end of 33-1.

Just food for thought from a prop betting perspective.
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07-19-2009 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pokernoob12
i just start exercising seriously for 3 months and i went from about a 12 minute mile to a 6 minute mile during that time, fwiw.
Was that 12 minute mile walking?

Last edited by Ce1ska; 07-19-2009 at 03:55 PM. Reason: backwards?
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07-19-2009 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by The4thFilm
Bet the US Federal budget against.
Back the truck up a la Phil Gordon.
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07-19-2009 , 07:09 PM
Even if he loses the bet he will obv be in great shape, may just be buying himself a couple of extra years
Bet is life +EV either way
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07-19-2009 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Hughes
Huck's out of luck. A major factor he has forgotten is how much the World Series will take out of him and his legs. If you are trying to decide whether to bet on or against ego, go the against every time.
wat?!

NVG never fails to entertain me. Especially the soccer team requirements....damn.
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07-19-2009 , 09:05 PM
a 4:39 mile is impossible for huck at his age. doing crystal meth doesnt help either.
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07-19-2009 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Carnivore
I remember being in terrific shape and only being able to do about 5:20.

But if he's already in good shape and hires a coach and dedicates to training and nutrition for the rest of the year he has a shot, long legs and long strides will help.
Height is not ideal for distance running, it just creates wind resistance. Huck Seed's 6'7" frame is not ideal for distance running. Below I have listed the heights for the last 5 WR holders.

Current WR holder Hicham El Guerrouj: 5'9"
Noureddine Morceli: 5'9"
Steve Cram: 6'1"
Sebastian Coe: 5'9"
Steve Ovett: 6'0"
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07-19-2009 , 10:43 PM
WR holders, huh?
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07-19-2009 , 10:59 PM
Maybe none of you know that Huck made a similar bet with Doyle Brunson about ten years ago. He bet he could run a 4:30 mile and got odds. He ran in regular tennis shoes and ran a 4:40 mile, losing his bet. At the time I wondered why he didn't make the bet for 4:45. He probably would have still gotten action from Doyle who ran track in college.

Huck has obviously done some distance running in his past. A 4:40 mile would win most high school track meets. So don't bet against him here, especially if he has time to train, and wear the proper equipment. I suspect Huck has broken 4:30 at sometime in his past. Maybe in high school. I'd like to know myself.
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07-19-2009 , 11:19 PM
he'll never do it.
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07-20-2009 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Toupee Jay
Maybe none of you know that Huck made a similar bet with Doyle Brunson about ten years ago. He bet he could run a 4:30 mile and got odds. He ran in regular tennis shoes and ran a 4:40 mile, losing his bet. At the time I wondered why he didn't make the bet for 4:45. He probably would have still gotten action from Doyle who ran track in college.

Huck has obviously done some distance running in his past. A 4:40 mile would win most high school track meets. So don't bet against him here, especially if he has time to train, and wear the proper equipment. I suspect Huck has broken 4:30 at sometime in his past. Maybe in high school. I'd like to know myself.
I thought that 4:40 he ran for that bet was his personal best, and the 4:39 time chosen for this bet was specifically chosen for that reason. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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07-20-2009 , 02:06 AM
I would bet against this.
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07-20-2009 , 04:52 AM
Just because everybody says its impossible i wanna bet on Huck making this, i would like to bet 10k on him ,but i want to get 50 to 1 odds, if anyone is willing to take the bet u can pm me and we will solve everything concerning his little challenge.
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08-02-2009 , 01:33 AM
What is the time frame for him to complete this prop? Is there a set date?
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