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HU NLHE: Bot beats pros(?) for 49 +/- 4 bb/100 HU NLHE: Bot beats pros(?) for 49 +/- 4 bb/100

03-15-2022 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by egj
(Eric Jackson here, author of Slumbot.)

Yes, sadly, this is true (Slumbot losing to a 10 line script in the ACPC). Just a few comments though:

* I think the core Slumbot strategy computed in the usual way (i.e., CFR) is strong and would not lose to any 10 line scripts. However, last minute post-processing steps I implemented created weaknesses I was not aware of. I've only glanced briefly at the logs of user "marcus", but I think he may be exploiting the same vulnerability that the Alberta script is.

* This does confirm the point that head-to-head performance can be a noisy performance measure. The 10-line script can thrash Slumbot, but will no doubt get crushed by other agents that may themselves lose soundly to Slumbot.

* Having said that, this is kind of an extreme case where Slumbot had a vulnerability, and there was an agent designed to take advantage of that hole. In general, when non-adapting equilibrium agents have faced off in the ACPC, things have behaved a little more predictably. If A beats B by 20 mbb/g and A beats C by 40 mbb/g, then *probably* B will beat C.

* Still, I don't think we can know whether Libratus or Deep Stack would win head-to-head without actually having a match.
Hey I just beat the bot to top the 5k RAW bb leaderboard "DontBluffPlz", and im 8th position for baseline, however my prior account with 1k hands was "Unreal" with 34.64 bb/100 baseline.

With "DontBluffPlz" I started with my usual game and was winning from the start, but then I try to mix it up with merged ranges and I screw up a ton lol going deep negative baseline, but at the end I was able to defeat it by playing more polarized and adjusting my game to the bot, I even started limping to defend more against such a wide BB raise/3bet strat. I wonder what do you think about all of this

I can post proof of this btw, I even recorded the final hand and still have access to the accounts.

Last edited by Smokedtruth; 03-15-2022 at 02:04 PM.
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12-25-2023 , 01:55 AM
Heres a hand i played with slumbot thought it was an interesting/insane hand…especially that slumbot was capable of making a play like this!
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