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08-19-2009, 09:54 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: In a MINI-van parked at Durrrrland
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Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
Aight, was at the wynn playing 2-5 last night and the table behind the floor station was short handed with Hollywood Dave playing at it. All of a sudden everyone hears some loud talking between some asian american young guy and Hollywood Dave shaking his head and talking back in apparent disgust. Minutes later Dave is discussing what happened with the floor supervisor and kept trying to claim the others were colluding in their bets and raises against Dave. Then Dave starts to walk away and yells back, something like the wynn condones cheating, blah blah blah, and then states that he was going to post stuff on his blog and the internet about that poker room, blah blah blah. The floor guy, who had been keeping his cool, then got really pissed and screamed "if you do that, you will be LYING!"...then the floor and another supervisor walked away shaking their heads laughing about Hollywood Dave.
Now I don't know if what Dave was saying about the others was true, but I did hear the floor guy tell him something like if it was anyone else Dave, he would be concerned, but he was not concerned about the two guys Dave was talking about.
PS -- Hopefully HD will post something about this and explain what the heck was going on.
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08-19-2009, 10:06 PM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: It...might not happen.
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Re: Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
You said the table was short-handed. How many people were playing at the time?
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08-19-2009, 10:08 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: the streets
Posts: 8,810
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Re: Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
Would be a shame if someone cheated a guy affiliated with UB. Really.
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08-19-2009, 10:15 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: UK
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Re: Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
He's already posted on his website.
Not sure if I can post a link but the website name is pretty straight-forward to find.
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08-19-2009, 10:17 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Syracuse
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Re: Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
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08-19-2009, 10:21 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Cabin in Durrland
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Re: Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
Kind of messed up if it went down like Dave says. Regardless, just pack up and move on, no need to make a spectacle.
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08-19-2009, 10:39 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 118
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Re: Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevmath
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Based on Dave's account, he was correct in calling collusion, and he had every right to be upset when the floorman ruled that what occurred was permissible.
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08-19-2009, 10:49 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Re: Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
I just read Dave's blog after my OP above. Dave's account of how it went down is correct (the only thing I didnt see was the actual hand, but I--and everyone else around) heard the discussions between Dave and the floor. Even though it was only $5, you can't have people chopping pots after raising others out.
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08-19-2009, 10:59 PM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: It...might not happen.
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Re: Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
Sounds inexcusable. It didn't matter what these two guys intended, that's collusive action & the floor was definitely in the wrong.
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08-19-2009, 11:11 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Board pairing is a myth
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Re: Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
Yeah but it's Hollywood Dave. Someone could run over his puppy and I'd still laugh at him.
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08-19-2009, 11:17 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,937
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Re: Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
so dave has a 2+2 acct and he posted this in B&M?
edit: oh, never mind. it was kevmath who posted it.
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08-19-2009, 11:21 PM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: It...might not happen.
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Re: Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
Quote:
Originally Posted by KSOT
Yeah but it's Hollywood Dave. Someone could run over his puppy and I'd still laugh at him.
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+1
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08-19-2009, 11:33 PM
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Grand Poobah
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Nevada
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Re: Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinky Johnson
Based on Dave's account, he was correct in calling collusion, and he had every right to be upset when the floorman ruled that what occurred was permissible.
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Hi Everyone:
I read what Dave wrote and first of all it's very unlikely to be collusion, and if it is collusion, the so-called colluders are beyond stupid. The reason for this is that intelligent colluders never want to give away any information about their hands. Thus they will almost always play so that when it is just down to the two of them, like it was here, one would eventually bet (on a later street) and the other would fold. Notice that if played like this Dave would have never said a word.
However, there are reasons why poker rooms don't allow pots to be split (with the exception of chopping the blinds in hold 'em), and the most obvious one is that some players, like Dave here, will think they are being cheated. So Dave is correct in that The Wynn Poker Room should not allow this, and they should make it clear to players who try to chop pots in this fashion that they are not welcome in their poker room.
Best wishes,
Mason
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08-19-2009, 11:37 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,314
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Re: Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
Is this really worth almost getting kicked out of the wynn? I think I would take the same ruling as the floor. 5$ DAVE!!! c'mon your better than that.
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08-19-2009, 11:49 PM
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veteran
Join Date: May 2008
Location: West Coast
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Re: Hollywood Dave at the Wynn
Quote:
Originally Posted by LiveActionPro
Is this really worth almost getting kicked out of the wynn? I think I would take the same ruling as the floor. 5$ DAVE!!! c'mon your better than that.
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You REALLY think he made this fuss over the $5? REALLY?
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