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Heated twitter debate by Daniel Negreanu  (POY) and  Main finalist Phil Collins (UscPhildo) Heated twitter debate by Daniel Negreanu  (POY) and  Main finalist Phil Collins (UscPhildo)

08-01-2014 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Sancho_Mostar
Dnegs - not only are you ignorant, but you're crazy if you think your opinion means enything in this fuced up world. if you had a single true fan, you lost him and greatly harmed your poor career.
But on a bright side, your contract with pokerstars might be renewed, so at least you have that going for you wich is nice.
You should look at switching to decaf.
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08-01-2014 , 04:52 AM
[QUOTE=GMLAW;44172772]Daniel,

Thanks for your reply. Too bad it will be the only one, and in my opinion is a post that made your Ttwitter statements even more mind boggling.



This is great. Having an opinion is a good thing, although in my experience people who know nothing about a subject should have a meta-opinion: "Is my opinion valid or am I lacking knowledge to say something relevant about this." You clearly do not have any knowledge on the subject, so your statement that you 'believe' something is correct. However, this conflict is so complex, with a lot of history (facts) over the past decades, that 'believing' something on this subject without knowing any of the subject is extremely ignorant.



I for one read all the replies to this thread, and people did not disagree with your position. Or maybe they did, but they did not voice they opinion. People replied to say they lost all their respect because you said: I'm 100% behind Israel, like this conflict is some sort of hockey game. That made me lose all remaining respect for you. This conflict is not black or white and it's not merely a question of picking the 'right side'.



So let me check if I read this clearly, because it made you speaking on this subject even more ridiculous. You don't watch or read any western media, so your knowledge upon the conflict comes from other media. Can't imagine what media that might be, an Israelic paper? An Palestinan paper? Of course not. You just said you have got zero media coverage on the conflict, and pretend that is a good thing because you know... those 'western' media: all biased and stuff. Ridiculous. Even if you believe it to be biased, you could be searching for objective other 'western' media, or just watch it and compare it to the coverage on your non western media.

To make matters worse, you say to have knowledge on this subject because you have friends in the army.

Really? Do you REALLY think that because you have FRIENDS in the army, you have all the needed knowledge on the Israel/Palestina conflict?!

Good for you that you done a decent amount of reading, which is indeed something you should do. Given your impressive result to dodge the 'western' media on this subject for your entire adult life (20 years), you must have been reading a bunch of interesting books by non western men like....: Sam Harris?! Sam Hariis is not only a typical example of a WESTERN author, he is also been criticized as an unreliable source on this conflict because of his severe hate on the Islam. So when quoting that source, you might find it appropriate (or not - but then explain why) to read some more.



This is just... WOW. From the man who pounds himself on the chest giving a sleeping homeless man two 5 dollar bills - including two young ladies who swoon and sigh: you're such a good man - comes this opinion?

"I am not FOR killing of children" is very appropriate because the rest of the quote shows you're not against it either. The fact that you think killing children is okay because Hamas puts weapons under their little beds is really, really, really stupid. Writing that, overthinking it, and thinking what you say is true...

I think the mothers of those children are indeed celebrating their deaths. With a cake, a nice clown, maybe even a magician, and who knows they might go swimming.




A whole paragraph of utter bull****. Congratulations. Yeah, Hamas is trying to kill as many as possible before lunchbreak, and thank God or Allah that Israel just cares about their citizens and kills Hamas for them. The story about the protestors (which got reported on in the Jerusalem post: a very objective source compared to the Western media) is not proven. The tunnels and raping and murder is really good sensationalizing by you.



True colors coming through. You are just like Sam Harris afraid of the Islam. The fact that you think the conflict is about world domination is laughable.

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Originally Posted by DNegs
In closing, I read this quote and it sums up my beliefs perfectly, "If Hamas drops it's weapons, there will be no more war. If Israel drops it's weapons, there will be no more Israel." We are talking about a group of people who not only deny the Holocaust, but will vocally admit that if they have the opportunity, they will create one of their own.[/QOUTE]

Yeah, people who deny the holocaust are very bad. Indeed. That does not make your argument valid. And especially if not all of the Palestinian people do such, but only want a home. A home for their children. To hide their weapons under their little beds, like duh obvious.



No, I don't hate you. You have shown your opinion and a great deal of ignorance on this subject. The fact that this bothers is me is that you represent a game I love. It is a game in which we use our brains. We are fighting a fight to prove it is not gambling but a skill game. You are one of the most recognizable faces in the game, and it seems like you are trying to prove to the world that you are a complete moron. It hurts our fight, it hurts the game if one of the main ambassadors is thought as an idiot.

But what really grinds my gears is that you can say it's fine killing children when their parents hide weapons in their rooms, and the same night post some stupid blog about being a good person and giving a homeless guy 10 bucks. It is pathetic.
Thanks for taking the time to write this out. Very well said.
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08-01-2014 , 05:33 AM
becomes vegan for health reasons and is against animal slaughter. 100% behind the slaughter of women, childdren, the elderly and disabled.
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08-01-2014 , 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PraguePoker
I'm not really even sure where to start with this Daniel. Seriously, with all due respect, I believe you have an incredibly simplistic view of this conflict. To imply Hamas' goal is a worldwide Islamic state, and compare them to Al Qaeda, is laughable. I could go through many other assertions from your post, but it would almost certainly be a waste of time. Suffice to say your post is completely one-sided and lacking in any historical understanding of the conflict.

There are now well over 1000 Palestinians dead in this latest round of violence, the vast majority of whom are innocent civilians, including young children. Israel has bombed schools, hospitals, and UN safe areas. Even if you want to blame all of this death and destruction on Hamas (which is laughable, Israeli propaganda, but whatever), why choose this particular moment to make your case? Bombs are literally falling now on Palestinian children, and you rush to defend Israel? At the very least it shows a shameful lack of sensitivity.

It's great you are opinionated about many things, certainly in poker few are as qualified as you to make your case. In this instance and on this topic, however, you have no idea what you are talking about. And you have chosen the absolute worst time to make your case.

--PP
This.

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08-01-2014 , 06:27 AM
Wonder what daleroxuu thinks of all this
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08-01-2014 , 06:34 AM
that his blog about how he gave a homless person $ 10 is pure gold. He even put a picture of o homless guy for a proof
The man who is in his career earned $ 27 million, gives the homeless with $ 10 and brags about it on social media. FFS.
Again Daniel, here is israel palestina for dummys, I highly recommend for your further education on this matter...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jKVQyPgJCw
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08-01-2014 , 06:52 AM
Why is this thread up, whats the discussion? It just gives all the nvgtards to go full ******, when there is a perfectly good discussion in politics forum.

EDIT: Like this idiot up here comparing gaza to holocaust by showing graphic pictures side by side.

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Originally Posted by buffyslayer1
Wonder what daleroxuu thinks of all this
Who cares??

Last edited by buzzard1881; 08-01-2014 at 07:00 AM.
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08-01-2014 , 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Crane
I fail to see what ones political views have to do with an on-line poker site.
Well let's just say that Negreanu wouldn't be the greatest choice of figurehead if Pokerstars decided to promote a 'Middle East Poker Tour'.

I doubt the "Arab market" is the target of a major part of Pokerstars' online marketing budget, but some people will boycott the site because of DNeg's outbursts. It's clearly bad for business.
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08-01-2014 , 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DNegs
I'm openly willing to share my opinions or views on a wide range of topics...
+1 for having an opinion and using your platform to express it. Don't let some of the fringe stop you (I'm sure you don't/won't). The people that shout down others for voicing their thoughts don't add anything to the discussion, whichever side of a particular subject they are on.
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08-01-2014 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Sancho_Mostar
that his blog about how he gave a homless person $ 10 is pure gold. He even put a picture of o homless guy for a proof
The man who is in his career earned $ 27 million, gives the homeless with $ 10 and brags about it on social media. FFS.
Again Daniel, here is israel palestina for dummys, I highly recommend for your further education on this matter...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jKVQyPgJCw
lol at the $10. sneaks it into guys hand and then takes photo of guy sleeping as proof. basically exploited a homeless to satisy his own need for attention. what a ****ing bellend of a guy
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08-01-2014 , 07:27 AM
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+1 for having an opinion and using your platform to express it. Don't let some of the fringe stop you (I'm sure you don't/won't). The people that shout down others for voicing their thoughts don't add anything to the discussion, whichever side of a particular subject they are on.
Yes and showing your simplistic ignorance of the subject matter (and stubbornness in the face of any counter arguments) really adds to the discussion
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08-01-2014 , 07:56 AM
Daniel's shameful statement and "100% support" in this ethnic cleansing which he called the war does not allow me to find some other way but to boycott PokerStars, although I played exclusively there.
Daniel negreanu is face of the company, the man who represents them and always was their first choice.
I know that some of you may not care, but I feel an obligation to invite other players in boycott of PokerStars, at least until pokerstars distance itself from these statements.
I think it would be a matter of seconds for them to react if it was case that daniel wrote #free Palestine.

Last edited by Sancho_Mostar; 08-01-2014 at 08:09 AM.
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08-01-2014 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Hugo_Broak
Didn't think it was possible for me to find Negreanu more annoying but he somehow finds a way. Scheinberg isn't your boss anymore Daniel you don't have to support terrorism and genocide.
Done any research into the new boss(es)?
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08-01-2014 , 11:49 AM
Daniel Negreanu supporting Israel 100% is like saying one should cbet 100% of the time, even against the right kind of opponent.

As we know, nothing in poker, and nothing in life and definitely not in a conflict where both sides are killing each other, is something 100%.

Israel has the absolute right to exist and live without fear and without rockets raining down on them from Hamas, therefore it has every right to defend itself by going after Hamas. Israel also has every right to ensure that Hamas doesn't use tunnels to kill Israelis, so going after the tunnels and those who built them is legit.

But Israel has no right to continue expanding their settlements.

Stop the settlements, Israel, and you get 100% of my support. Until then, anyone such as Daniel Negreanu supporting Israel 100% is the same as saying that Israel has the right to continue to expand into disputed territory... which basically means while both sides fail to come to an agreement on the future borders of a Palestinian state, one side backed by military power can continue to shrink the other side's realistic claims to territory... and that's unfair and is the root of the problem.
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08-01-2014 , 05:44 PM
I started a thread in the Politics forum devoted to Daniel's post in this thread if anybody is interested.
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