GTech Caught Rigging Casino Games - Poker News

NikTheGreek · 01-16-2013, 07:16 PM

here is the article:
http://www.4flush.com/online-casino-...no-games/11698

cliffs:

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- GTech, a subsidiary of Lottomatica, was caught rigging two online casino games. The rigged games were Reel Deal and Hi/Lo Gambler. They were then distributed to a number of respectable online casinos. These include Betfred and NordicBet.

- The games in question use cards to determine the outcome. A Spanish 21 deck is used. This means that tens are omitted but all other cards are in the deck. A player would expect that one card would be just as likely as another one to be drawn. This was not the case. While the free play game played correctly, the real money game would determine what outcome a player chose and then only give them a 48% chance of winning.

- This situation is very disturbing from a player standpoint. Boss Media, Spielo, Gtech, Lottomatica, or whatever you want to call the company that distributed this game intentionally created a game that someone knew was rigged or could be rigged. The only other explanation is that they simply did not test the game at all or completely fail to understand gambling laws and nobody in the chain of command did either. Even a small amount of testing would have proven a rigged game was being distributed. They have been silent to this point.

This is bad considering the company was recommended for an online poker license in Nevada last week

ericgg · 01-16-2013, 07:21 PM

Internet casino gambling! Always fun...

NuklearWinter · 01-16-2013, 07:24 PM

Casino games are rigged? Who knew!

I actually worked at GTECH for almost 4 years. They are a good company, I'm sure there is a logical explanation. This would be similar to stars rigging their games, it just isn't in the company's best interest to intentionally fix the game.

campfirewest · 01-16-2013, 07:25 PM

Just when you thought online gambling was safe

DRybes · 01-16-2013, 07:29 PM

According to them it was a series of mixups, the last of which included the company making the game providing the betting sites with the wrong odds in the help file. Possible for sure. You'd expect them to say something like that on the surface for PR regardless of how it happened. But it's quite possible.

According to betfred they will be refunding everyone who played the game and lost. Let's see if they do that, mostly since they seem to have promised to.

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[...] Based on that we will be refunding all losses on the game from when the game was introduced to Betfred, and will be removing other Realistic Games provided by SPIELO G2 to complete a review of their configuration, help files and RTP and until we’re confident in their accuracy. Compensation payments will be issued within 7 working days.

I guess nordicbet promised too so we'll see.

And Bet365 is still running the game, with no plans to remove it, claiming their version works correctly. Which could be correct as well.

MissMeYet? · 01-16-2013, 07:30 PM

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...-software.html

grando1.0 · 01-16-2013, 07:31 PM

yeah I'll believe that when I see it

ItsOnlyChips · 01-16-2013, 07:49 PM

as usual, nothing gets done until players report the issue

46&2 · 01-16-2013, 07:50 PM

Seriously, theres no way online poker can be rigged.

Koko the munkey · 01-16-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DRybes

According to them it was a series of mixups, the last of which included the company making the game providing the betting sites with the wrong odds in the help file. Possible for sure. You'd expect them to say something like that on the surface for PR regardless of how it happened. But it's quite possible.

Sorry I call BS on that unless they can explain what purpose there is in coding a gaming application that uses any odds but the correct ones and why they would make it so easy to change those odds.

In my mind, there is only one reason to code something like this, and that's to enable cheating.

NikTheGreek · 01-16-2013, 08:17 PM

basic testing would have discovered this. Even a lady (that wants to play a break even game) was able to figure it out...

the orange crush · 01-16-2013, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter

I actually worked at GTECH for almost 4 years. They are a good company.

bjsmith22 · 01-16-2013, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by the orange crush

Why do you think that your opinion- that of an outsider, and seemingly an uninformed one- is more right than someone who worked for the company for 4 years? What reason would he have to defend the company? He is a former employee, he has no reason to defend G4, other than if he actually believes that they are reputable.

Still butthurt about losing your 3.50 to online pit games?

PS

I apologize if your eyerolling meant something other than what I inferred it too.

4BetBoke · 01-16-2013, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter

Casino games are rigged? Who knew!

I actually worked at GTECH for almost 4 years. They are a good company, I'm sure there is a logical explanation. This would be similar to stars rigging their games, it just isn't in the company's best interest to intentionally fix the game.

All the same over sightedness is completely inexcusable unless they launch a full investigation and refund asap

the orange crush · 01-17-2013, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bjsmith22

Why do you think that your opinion- that of an outsider, and seemingly an uninformed one- is more right than someone who worked for the company for 4 years? What reason would he have to defend the company? He is a former employee, he has no reason to defend G4, other than if he actually believes that they are reputable.

Still butthurt about losing your 3.50 to online pit games?

PS

I apologize if your eyerolling meant something other than what I inferred it too.

I have never spent a cent in an online casino. In fact I do no negative expectation gambling, just poker.

The real question is did someone at the company do this intentionally. I think they did and anyone who thinks they didn't is naive imo.

So a former employee calling them a "good company," what if he is just wrong? Maybe 96% of the company are good people, but someone there wanted to cheat people(and wrote it out in the code, send that code out to vendors, etc.), there is no other way to look at it imo.