Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > General Poker Discussion > News, Views, and Gossip

Notices

News, Views, and Gossip For poker news, views, and gossip

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-03-2012, 10:13 PM   #226
adept
 
28renton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 1,085
Re: Group Bernard Tapie unable to collect money from Ivey, Benyamine, etc.

Wish I knew I could've just called up FTP and asked for $400,000k. What was I thinking paying all these deposit fees all this time?!?!
28renton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2012, 10:16 PM   #227
MMD
old hand
 
MMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Waiting on screwdrivers
Posts: 1,901
Re: Group Bernard Tapie unable to collect money from Ivey, Benyamine, etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ddlloo12 View Post
Bitar is clearly not the only one responsible for these loans. Who do you think the players were asking for the funds?
Bitar ran the company. The buck stops with him.
MMD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2012, 10:19 PM   #228
grinder
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 525
Re: Group Bernard Tapie unable to collect money from Ivey, Benyamine, etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MMD View Post
Bitar ran the company. The buck stops with him.
No, it stops with the board of directors.
NeedsToBeSaid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2012, 10:24 PM   #229
MMD
old hand
 
MMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Waiting on screwdrivers
Posts: 1,901
Re: Group Bernard Tapie unable to collect money from Ivey, Benyamine, etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedsToBeSaid View Post
No, it stops with the board of directors.
Bitar is/was a director.
MMD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2012, 10:32 PM   #230
enthusiast
 
tiledonk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 83
Re: Group Bernard Tapie unable to collect money from Ivey, Benyamine, etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolsta View Post
You have to think that the term "loan" was used rather loosely. It seems that it was a big ****ing free for all. I assume the people running the company did not really care/expect the money to be paid back. They have a lot to answer for.
Well, yeah. As much as I hated seeing the term "Ponzi Scheme" used by the media, that's exactly what it was, and they thought it would last forever. Huge black-eye for poker.

I really hope all involved go down, and this mess gets sorted out. That's wishful thinking though. The players, the real players, are the ones who are gonna take the brunt of this and there's nothing they can do.

I hope GBT can fix this mess, but in the end, the Full Tilt brand is dead and a terrible gamble IMHO. I hope I'm wrong.
tiledonk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2012, 10:36 PM   #231
LPK
journeyman
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Boston
Posts: 334
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaybizzle3 View Post
When are we gonna wake up to some awesome legit news? At this point I give up on ever getting a dime back from FT. Now all I have to hope for is for is the demise of Ferguson, Ivey, and whoever the **** else lead to this...The next "breaking news" I want to hear involves broken legs and shattered knees. Someone out there with money and connections has to make this happen. I can't believe their lives are not threatened on a daily basis.
This
LPK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2012, 11:32 PM   #232
centurion
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 110
Re: Group Bernard Tapie unable to collect money from Ivey, Benyamine, etc.

I don't know if it has been already posted:
http://www.igamingfrance.com/full-ti...e-scenes/26186

Tapie talking about the debt. Some extracts:

"Otherwise GBT will have to make up the shortfall, generating an additional cost to the overall operation that GBT is not willing to take on."
"Fortunately, among the 19 players we have attempted to contact, some have immediately called back and worked with us on a repayment plan to clear their debts, and we are already finalising contracts to that effect.
We now hope that those who have not contacted us will do so quickly, to find the same type of solutions, so that the situation does not remain as it is."

Last edited by ildent; 02-03-2012 at 11:55 PM. Reason: my english sucks
ildent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2012, 11:51 PM   #233
Pooh-Bah
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,034
Re: Group Bernard Tapie unable to collect money from Ivey, Benyamine, etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ildent View Post
I don't know if it has already posted:
http://www.igamingfrance.com/full-ti...e-scenes/26186

Tapie talking about the debt. Some extracts:

"Otherwise GBT will have to make up the shortfall, generating an additional cost to the overall operation that GBT is not willing to take on."
"Fortunately, among the 19 players we have attempted to contact, some have immediately called back and worked with us on a repayment plan to clear their debts, and we are already finalising contracts to that effect.
We now hope that those who have not contacted us will do so quickly, to find the same type of solutions, so that the situation does not remain as it is."
I thought it was something like $20M according to GBT's lawyer? And he makes a good point talking about people who owe FTP worrying about players getting paid back, when if GBT gives up on the deal no one gets paid back.

Wish he had outed all the players who owe money.
Go Get It is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2012, 11:52 PM   #234
old hand
 
oneonth3run's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: FINGERS CROSSED
Posts: 1,219
Thanks for posting. So it IS a potential deal breaker, but at least progress is being made with some individuals and he at least sounds stern but optimistic. This would be too easy without another big sweat.
oneonth3run is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2012, 12:10 AM   #235
Pooh-Bah
 
swd805's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 5,624
Re: Group Bernard Tapie unable to collect money from Ivey, Benyamine, etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TBadr View Post
time for poker players to really go JGW on these mofos

Love that last guy.
swd805 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2012, 12:15 AM   #236
veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: At my computer
Posts: 2,418
Re: Group Bernard Tapie unable to collect money from Ivey, Benyamine, etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Go Get It View Post
I thought it was something like $20M according to GBT's lawyer? And he makes a good point talking about people who owe FTP worrying about players getting paid back, when if GBT gives up on the deal no one gets paid back.

Wish he had outed all the players who owe money.
The french article talks about Tapie contacting 19 players. IIRC, 8 players have been named. Perhaps the other 11 are the ones that have agreed to pay and he's only outing the ones who are refusing.
DoTheMath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2012, 12:19 AM   #237
grinder
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 525
Re: Group Bernard Tapie unable to collect money from Ivey, Benyamine, etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MMD View Post
Bitar is/was a director.
I know that. There are three others. They are also responsible.
NeedsToBeSaid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2012, 12:37 AM   #238
MMD
old hand
 
MMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Waiting on screwdrivers
Posts: 1,901
Re: Group Bernard Tapie unable to collect money from Ivey, Benyamine, etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedsToBeSaid View Post
I know that. There are three others. They are also responsible.
They have a degree of responsibility yes, but, it was Bitar who called the shots on a daily basis. It's been said on here numerous times that people like Lederer and Ferguson just didn't get involved that much anymore. Whether or not that's true only they know.
MMD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2012, 12:44 AM   #239
grinder
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 525
Re: Group Bernard Tapie unable to collect money from Ivey, Benyamine, etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MMD View Post
They have a degree of responsibility yes, but, it was Bitar who called the shots on a daily basis. It's been said on here numerous times that people like Lederer and Ferguson just didn't get involved that much anymore. Whether or not that's true only they know.
I don't give a **** who called the shots day to day. This **** was going on for years. The board has oversight responsibility, and they're ****ing paying themselves out of the players fund every month. Those four are all responsible for every penny of player money that was stolen, and all the damage done to players lives.
NeedsToBeSaid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2012, 03:22 AM   #240
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Kirbynator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,005
Re: Group Bernard Tapie unable to collect money from Ivey, Benyamine, etc.

very interesting article few posts above, <3 laurent tapie.

Hopefully enough of the players get in touch and payback. For some reason I got some positive out of that article.
Kirbynator is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive