FYP

You can add me to the list of NVG'ers who think SGT RJ would constitute an excellent moderator. She's extremely talented and deserves major props for her excellent contributions. Plus, she's fair-minded, approachable, and treats us lowly NVGtards with respect, provided we aren't kooks or obvious trolls. She's gained the respect of most NVG'ers and helps improve dialogue in the forums.

It's painful reading Dan's responses.

FFS did his parents teach him nothing about how to exist in the real world?

this comment by d2themfi nails it:

Wasn't there also a mod doling out infractions in these threads? I might have it confused with the boywonder threads, because I was reading some of those today as well.

I'm sure the mods appreciate the extra work.

The mod who was arguing against the conspiracy theorists is gone.

Frankly, this issue has been discussed in every thread about this and I don't know what you people want to do. Have Noah and Vanessa do a Q&A with Mason? Give all the mods infractions? Hand out free copies of Theory of Poker to all NVGtards?

I think releasing the audio was the best thing that could happen Jungleman, and I didn´t feel he was torn apart at all during this (mind you, I have always thought he´d been innocent of most of the accusations thrown his way and was being used as a shield by DIH). Yes, he is not your stereotype slick politician when it comes to his answers, that´s for sure. Also, many people that know him have said that this is the way JM interacts with people in his daily life. If anything, the interview reinforced my belief that here we have a slightly socially awkward guy that is being manipulated by somebody way "wiser" in the ways of the world. Yes, he does stumble, stutter and backtrack on some things, but that behaviour is way less suspicious than a slick, rehearsed statement. He´s even offering new information throughout the interview, and noone can blaim him for feeling stressed. After having now listened to most of it, we have guy that´s a bit confused, and a bit scared, and that has probably done some things that are on the lower side of the ethical greyscale (multiaccounting, vouching carelessly for someone he did not really know) and is terrified as to how these things may taint his reputation. Jungleman, as an old man compared to you I would say you should really choose your friends better and become less dependant on any of the ones you have, you should never enter business relationships with them (especially at their proposal), you shouldn´t MA because you are held to a higher standard than the rest of us and it´s not a good thing to do, and you shouldn´t bend the truth at all because even if you are not malicious and the lies are white you´re pretty bad at it and lying makes people look like they have more to hide than they perhaps really do.

Edit: and fire that PR-woman. Good luck.

Only part way through the Noah/Vanessa interview but WOW JM just looks and sounds terrible. He can't handle this brilliant grilling by Noah and Vanessa. Great work guys, thank god someone can police these cheaters and try to keep poker's image out of the muck.

Definitely not, but that thread is a LOT more readable and clearly the mods can't keep up, as evidenced by the ton of stupidity you're referencing.

*sigh*

Whatever, man. I mean, your opinions about NVGer's aside, taking the link out wouldn't stop anyone anyway.

Moderating must be a thankless task, of that I'm sure. Just as I'm sure it's just your pity for the HS moderators that prompted your request, and not a belief that anyone who's an NVGer, or not a HS reg, is a moron, correct?

That's sweet of you. Maybe they'll give you a cookie.

I BELIEVE (but am not sure, ask Rangey), that infractions were threatened, but IDK if any were given.

And the mod who was actively involved in debating the issue is gone now. NoahSD has already stated he wasn't following that thread. So again, IDK, doesn't seem like a conspiracy to me.

so you are coming into this thread to comment on the clarity of another thread? cmon now

leave the HSNLTards to it

five4 stop trolling in this thread.

I must get out of this bizarre mess as I can't take any more, but FWIW, I would like to thank the following people:

MossBoss for coming forward.

3x Range Merger for making some quality cliffs right off the bat.

RangeyMcTriplmerge for this (*) and many other great posts (this is quoted for much needed levity).

NoahSD for being good at his craft

VS for being so helpful in the interview process

Last but not least (in addition to all the posters in these threads) SRG RJ. You have put in a ton of work, and it has caught me up at various points and have found many of your posts insightful, so for that I thank you.

Girah/JM/HQ thanks for the making this roller coaster so interesting (JM, get some life-adjustment help. You are way smart but have no EQ)?


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JM talks a pretty long while about different levels on which you can lie on. How about just telling the truth? Jeez.

I feel a little bad for him though, it must be a hell going through all of this, but wtf? Things like this really hurt the poker world and for us grinders its not fun to read about. How much cheating is there, really?! Makes you question everything.

Taking into account many other threads on here I just wanna share a good advice to everybody: mind your own business (meaning dont play other accounts and so on).
Also, learning the hard way, Ive come to this rule that I live by since many years now: dont take any loans and dont give any loans. That would make the poker world a much better and easier place to be. (Guess I had the Chino thread in mind writing this, but anyway).