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Old 09-22-2008, 06:17 PM   #301
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Re: FTP drops a pro (JJ Liu)

lol....this guy is such a ginormous asshat i'm surprised he found glasses that fit his face.
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:22 PM   #302
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lol....this guy is such a ginormous asshat i'm surprised he found glasses that fit his face.
They don't.
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:40 PM   #303
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OLIVER TSE is a LIAR

FACT 3: it is physically impossible for anyone to be in two places at once!

OLIVER TSE IS A LIAR!
I believe Oliver Tse watched too much http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doraemon in his childhood and has come to realized that anyone can actually be in two different places in just a second w/ Doraemon's magic pocket help.
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:43 PM   #304
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I've won a few home tournaments over the past 3 years and I'm almost a break even player. Do you think Oliver would be a good agent for me?
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:47 PM   #305
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In case anybody's unclear, Ritzup is a guy who works for Party, so you should probably believe him over Oliver.

I'm amused because I remember modding NVG when the Neary story came out, and having to defend Oliver because the attacks against him were so harsh. Instead of learning any lesson he might have from that, he's only gone on to become scummier and more self promoting.

The most distrubing aspect of this is that apparently he is/was into Stars enough that they weren't dealing with a few players unless it was through him. I would hope somebody points whoever is in charge of such things at Stars towards this (or the old JJ Liu thread) so that they realize with whom they are working.
I think the guy who works for Stars and is in charge of Asia market is a bald, nerdy-look guy named Jeffery Haas.
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:50 PM   #306
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not to stick up for Oliver, but isn't it possibly JJ moved to the US one year and then went back to Taiwan the next??

I mean, I don't believe it or anything, but it is possible.
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:53 PM   #307
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not to stick up for Oliver, but isn't it possibly JJ moved to the US one year and then went back to Taiwan the next??

I mean, I don't believe it or anything, but it is possible.
its more likely that OLIVER TSE IS A LIAR!

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Old 09-22-2008, 06:56 PM   #308
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I've won a few home tournaments over the past 3 years and I'm almost a break even player. Do you think Oliver would be a good agent for me?
that depends. how does 5 cents a year sound to you? hint: there's ANOTHER 5 cents coming the next year!!!
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:44 PM   #309
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of September 2008 by accepting a sponsored trip from PokerStars.net (based

agreement with F---T---P----.net.
I think I figured it out.

See how he mentions Poker Stars with out issue, but doesnt mention Full Tilt Poker in full.

This is all about his association with Poker Stars. He plays it off like for legal reason, etc, which is B.S., but its a matter of "promotion". He doesnt want to mention Full Tilt because any mention is like putting a logo in the posting. By not mentioning Full Tilt but mentioning, Poker Stars, he is in effect promoting Poker Stars.

Wow, you really are F--k-d -p......
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:02 PM   #310
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Hey Dbag, what kind of dirt do you have on hand for Yang dumps your ass?

Wait, he would never dump you. He's a household name since you've become his agent.
Who? Yang.... hmm... Yang......

Yup, doesnt ring a bell...
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:32 PM   #311
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I think this may explain Oliver:
Courtesy http://www.mental-health-matters.com....php?artID=168
Question:

How to recognize a Narcissist before it is "too late"?
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"Haughty" Body Language - A physical posture implying and exuding an air of superiority, seniority, hidden powers, mysteriousness, amused indifference, etc. Rarely does the narcissist engage in eye contact and normally he refrains from bodily contact, physical proximity, or from engaging in a discussion unless from a state of condescension, faked "magnanimity and largesse". He rarely mingles socially and prefers to adopt the stance of the "observer" or the "lone wolf".
Entitlement Markers - The narcissist immediately asks for "special treatment" of some kind. Not to wait for his turn, to have a longer or a shorter therapeutic session, to talk directly to authority figures (and not to their assistants or secretaries), to have special payment terms, custom tailored arrangements, special attention by the head waiter in a restaurant and so on. He reacts with rage and indignantly if denied his wishes.
Idealisation or Devaluation - The narcissist instantly idealises or devalues, depending on his appraisal of the potential one has as a Narcissistic Supply Source. He IMMEDIATELY flatters, adores, admires and applauds the "target" in an embarrassingly exaggerated and profuse manner - or sulk, abuse and humiliate. In the second case (devaluation) he may force himself to be polite (because of the presence of a potential Supply Source). But this is bound to be a barbed sort of politeness, which rapidly deteriorates and degenerates into verbal or other violent displays of abuse, rage attacks, or cold detachment, totally out of the control of the narcissist.
The "Membership" Posture - The narcissist always tries to "belong". Yet, at the very same time, he maintains his stance as an outsider. The narcissist seeks to be admired for his ability to integrate and ingratiate himself without the efforts commensurate with such an undertaking. For instance: if he talks to a psychologist, the narcissist makes clear that he never studied psychology and then proceed to use the most obscure professional jargon, in an effort to prove that he mastered the discipline (i.e., that he is exceptionally intelligent or introspective). In general, the narcissist always prefers show-off to substance. One of the most effective methods of exposing a narcissist is by trying to go deeper and discuss substantial matters. The narcissist is shallow, a pond pretending to be an ocean. He likes to think of himself as a Renaissance man, a Jack of all knowledge. A narcissist will never admit to ignorance IN ANY FIELD!
Bragging and False Autobiography - The narcissist brags. His speech is peppered with "I", "my", "myself", "mine" and other appropriating linguistic structures. He describes himself as intelligent, or rich, or modest, or intuitive, or creative - but always excessively and extraordinarily so. One is almost tempted to say, inhumanly so. His biography sounds implausibly rich and complex. His achievements - incommensurate with his age, education, or recognition. His actual state always appears evidently and demonstrably incompatible with his claims. Very often, the narcissist lies or fantasises in a manner very easy to discern. He always name-drops.
Emotion-Free Language - The narcissist likes to talk about himself and only about himself. He is disinterested in what others have to tell him about themselves. He might pretend to be interested - but this is only with a potential source of supply and in order to obtain said supply. He acts bored, disdainful, even angry, if he feels intrusion and abuse of his precious time. In general, the narcissist is a very impatient person, easily bored, with strong attention deficits - unless and until he is the topic of discussion. One can discuss all the aspects of the intimate life of a narcissist, providing the discourse is not "emotionally tinted". If asked to relate directly to his emotions, he will, probably, intellectualise, rationalise, speak about himself in the third body and in a detached "scientific" tone or write a short story with a fictitious character in it, suspiciously autobiographical.
Seriousness and Sense of Intrusion and Coercion - The narcissist is dead serious about himself. He may possess a fabulous sense of humour, scathing and cynical. But he never appreciates it when this weapon is directed at him. The narcissist regards himself as being on a constant mission, whose importance is cosmic and whose consequences are global. If a scientist - he is always in the throes of revolutionising science. If a journalist - he is in the middle of the greatest story ever. This self-misperception is not amenable to light-headedness or self-deprecation. The narcissist is easily hurt and insulted (Narcissist Hurt or Narcissistic Injury). Even the most innocuous remarks or acts are interpreted by him as belittling, intruding, or coercive. His time is more valuable than others' - therefore, it cannot be wasted on unimportant matters such as social intercourse. Any suggestion to help, any advice or concerned inquiry are immediately interpreted as coercion. Any attempt to set an agenda - as an intimidating act of enslavement. In this sense, the narcissist is both schizoid and paranoid.
These - the lack of empathy, the aloofness, the disdain and sense of entitlement, the restricted application of his sense of humour, the unequal treatment and paranoia - make the narcissist a social misfit. The narcissist is able to provoke in his social milieu, in his casual acquaintances, even in his psychotherapist, the strongest, most avid and furious hatred and revulsion. He provokes violence, often not knowing why. He is perceived to be asocial at best (often - antisocial). This, perhaps, is the strongest presenting symptom. One feels ill at ease in the presence of a narcissist - and rarely knows why. No matter how charming, intelligent, thought provoking, outgoing, easy going and social the narcissist is - he forever fails to secure the sympathy of his fellow humans, a sympathy he is never ready, willing, or able to grant them in the first place.
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:50 PM   #312
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Re: FTP drops a pro (JJ Liu)

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How to recognize a Narcissist before it is "too late"?
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http://www.essortment.com/all/howtorecognize_riys.htm
How to recognize prehistoric stone age tools
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:00 PM   #313
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FACT 1: JJ Liu came to the United States in 1985!
FACT 2: the article "Liu" was still in Taiwan as of 1986!
FACT 3: it is physically impossible for anyone to be in two places at once!
You conveniently left off the following FACT:

If you read the article carefully, the alleged 1986 "nightclub" incident in Taiwan occurred during Christmas Eve, when universities in the U.S. were NOT in session:

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/loca.../08/29/100597/

"On Christmas Eve 1986, Wu went to a night club and met Liu, the club's deputy manager..."

If you are going to act like a lawyer and/or a prosecutor, please at least try to read the evidence carefully before you make your arguments.

I have dealt with anonymous internet attackers like you for the past 14 years. You are by far the sloppiest anonymous internet attacker I have come across. Not only do you NOT do much if any fact-checking before you launch your attacks (google up two articles is not sufficient fact-checking, not even close), you don't even to bother to read a piece of evidence when it is served to you on a silver platter.

You continue to embarass yourself with each attack being more desperate than the one before.

As I said, a "silent majority" is reading this thread. They are capable of making rational decisions after they read everything.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:04 PM   #314
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You conveniently left off the following FACT:

If you read the article carefully, the alleged 1986 "nightclub" incident in Taiwan occurred during Christmas Eve, when universities in the U.S. were NOT in session:

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/loca.../08/29/100597/

"On Christmas Eve 1986, Wu went to a night club and met Liu, the club's deputy manager..."

If you are going to act like a lawyer and/or a prosecutor, please at least try to read the evidence carefully before you make your arguments.

I have dealt with anonymous internet attackers like you for the past 14 years. You are by far the sloppiest anonymous internet attacker I have come across. Not only do you NOT do much if any fact-checking before you launch your attacks (google up two articles is not sufficient fact-checking, not even close), you don't even to bother to read a piece of evidence when it is served to you on a silver platter.

You continue to embarass yourself with each attack being more desperate than the one before.

As I said, a "silent majority" is reading this thread. They are capable of making rational decisions after they read everything.
Somehow I doubt you were dealing with attackers on the Internet 14 years ago.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:12 PM   #315
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I'm sure Oliver's referring to USENET groups (especially in soccer).
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