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Old 03-26-2012, 12:48 PM   #20911
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Well in this case mod of this thread should put some restrictions prohibiting new accounts posting and also all posts of negative nature. I started posting assuming that anyone is allowed to have and share his opinion.

Do I have to feel guilty now that I found this thread late when it has 20K of posts? Do I have to apologise to anyone for writing a few toughs before reading all 20.000 posts? I wasn't preaching any anti FTP gospel here nor pretending that I know what the Truth is. I also don't know how many false prophets and how many sceptics you already have had here or banned away.

I was playing at the tables that day when FTP world stopped still. I had $4000+ in my account. Was following all news for a month or so. After that once or twice a month googled something like 'Full Tilt Poker News March 2012'.. That's it.

Do I wan't to get my money back? YES. Do I think it would be a good thing if Full Till is relaunched? Absolutely! It would be good for all online poker reputation.

But still I think that it's too naive to believe that any businessman would buy business in distress willing to unconditionally re-pay all players. I understand if it was a product producing business with large debts. But in this case there has to be deposits in to accounts for the business to be made...



Yes. I pulled it out only because it's Forbes.

If someone knows what exactly words BTG has agreed to repay non US customers mean, please share. I can't find it mentioned in any articles ever quoted.

It's also strange why BTG have never spoken publicly about this deal? Repaying thousands dumped customers out of his own pocket is almost heroic thing. People usually like to shout out loud about such intentions.. Well maybe he does not want to be associated with gambling business...

Anyway. If Bernard Tapie pulls this one out he is my hero! Then I will read his biography book if such exists. I promise!
You're allowed to have your opinion as we are to have ours. My opinion is that while I appreciate you're trying to contribute, you should realise that you kind of failed to post anything insightful. This thread has been going on for a long time, did you really think you would be the first to raise your points?

Did you really think even if you were the first, that your post held any value?

The truth is FTP is as good as broke and the most likely last possible investor is in the process of negotiation to take over the company. This is a private process, whatever snippets of information we receive are very limited. It's possible that FTP is a very good investment, it's possible that it isn't. We just don't know, and we wont know until the deal is either dead or complete.

The information that is trickling through at the moment seems to be very positive and suggests that the deal could be complete as early as this week.

Since everything involved in this deal is pretty complicated and leaking of major stuff could be detrimental to the whole deal, this information is probably no 100% reliable and not 100% accurate. It's only useful to place yourself somewhere on the optimistic-pessimistic scale, which to be honest is pretty much the only thing you can do regarding your stance towards this possible deal between GBT, FTP and the DOJ.
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:48 PM   #20912
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Well in this case mod of this thread should put some restrictions prohibiting new accounts posting and also all posts of negative nature. I started posting assuming that anyone is allowed to have and share his opinion.

Do I have to feel guilty now that I found this thread late when it has 20K of posts? Do I have to apologise to anyone for writing a few toughs before reading all 20.000 posts? I wasn't preaching any anti FTP gospel here nor pretending that I know what the Truth is. I also don't know how many false prophets and how many sceptics you already have had here or banned away.

I was playing at the tables that day when FTP world stopped still. I had $4000+ in my account. Was following all news for a month or so. After that once or twice a month googled something like 'Full Tilt Poker News March 2012'.. That's it.

Do I wan't to get my money back? YES. Do I think it would be a good thing if Full Till is relaunched? Absolutely! It would be good for all online poker reputation.

But still I think that it's too naive to believe that any businessman would buy business in distress willing to unconditionally re-pay all players. I understand if it was a product producing business with large debts. But in this case there has to be deposits in to accounts for the business to be made...



Yes. I pulled it out only because it's Forbes.

If someone knows what exactly words BTG has agreed to repay non US customers mean, please share. I can't find it mentioned in any articles ever quoted.

It's also strange why BTG have never spoken publicly about this deal? Repaying thousands dumped customers out of his own pocket is almost heroic thing. People usually like to shout out loud about such intentions.. Well maybe he does not want to be associated with gambling business...

Anyway. If Bernard Tapie pulls this one out he is my hero! Then I will read his biography book if such exists. I promise!
If you had read even the last few hundred posts you would know that the lawyer representing Tapie in the negotiations has given comments to news sources.

e.g. http://www.pokernews.com/news/2012/0...stic-12175.htm
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:51 PM   #20913
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wake the *** up people ftp is not coming back and your money is gone .YOU MUST LEARN TO LET GO
Maybe stick to making dubious posts in the poker is rigged and dating advice threads that you seem to love.
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:52 PM   #20914
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I hope Tapie has NOT spent too many millions working on this, Mr Braindead2000, he likely will need as much as he can muster to get FTP2 and operate it for a while. Likely to happen fairly soon, but I think counting hours and days is silly. It will be done when it's done. Nobody here knows anything posotive or negative about that.

Especially posts like pooflingers pure trolling.... but it is NVG......rave on sir
I don't think money was ever a concern for Tapie tbh, if he+his father don't have enough money (which I think they do), they are sure to have enough connections that are willing to invest too.
Obviously in a company takeover deal environment many tactics will be employed to make it seem like stuff like money could be a problem, for obvious reasons .
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:56 PM   #20915
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If this deal doesn't complete, then Lederer and co are going to jail, right?
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:02 PM   #20916
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i will check this thread and website multiple times a day this week until i BINK some epic news. i will then continue to check this website multiple times a day.
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:20 PM   #20917
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wake the *** up people ftp is not coming back and your money is gone .YOU MUST LEARN TO LET GO
it's okay, because we are regulars and we are going to win our money back from you. you will learn to let your money go.

good luck at the tables
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:23 PM   #20918
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the deal WILL go through. If you wanna make money, you always have to invest "some" of your own. Online poker is growing every year, FTP2 will kick ass in bout a year. In bout 5 years, #1 in ROW.
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:25 PM   #20919
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I don't think money was ever a concern for Tapie tbh, if he+his father don't have enough money (which I think they do), they are sure to have enough connections that are willing to invest too.
Obviously in a company takeover deal environment many tactics will be employed to make it seem like stuff like money could be a problem, for obvious reasons .
Yes , claiming to be a bit short when you are not is likely something GBT has used before to their advantage in other deals. Hell, I've done it when I was buying a used car here in the USA LOL
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:25 PM   #20920
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the deal WILL go through. If you wanna make money, you always have to invest "some" of your own. Online poker is growing every year, FTP2 will kick ass in bout a year. In bout 5 years, #1 in ROW.
Isnt the online poker growth declining?
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:30 PM   #20921
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Isnt the online poker growth declining?
Sure has here in the USA ... Hopefully that will change soon..
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:38 PM   #20922
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Isnt the online poker growth declining?
Given Black Friday and the global economic climate online poker has proven to be surprisingly robust I think. Regulation in the USA and/or improving economies would only make things better, eventually.
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:42 PM   #20923
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Given Black Friday and the global economic climate online poker has proven to be surprisingly robust I think. Regulation in the USA and/or improving economies would only make things better, immediately.
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:42 PM   #20924
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Isnt the online poker growth declining?
I was talking bout ROW, i don't care bout USA tho, sorry. ( but i do care bout getting their money back, dont get me wrong :-) )
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What I meant was that neither of those things are imminent but are highly likely over the next 2-3 years.
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