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08-20-2017 , 11:28 PM

coach999

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,184

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-o-00Mlp34

No preflop action, everyone pays an Ante and action starts on the flop. Another casino-style game with less skill involved...
Time to cashout from 888 and not deposit again!

More info: https://stage-www.888poker.com/magaz...es-flopomania/

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08-20-2017 , 11:41 PM

lankyross

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 28

Abit over the top, how about just not play the game mode?

Did you cash your role out when pokerstars introduced spin and go max?

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08-20-2017 , 11:44 PM

coach999

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,184

Sure and how about not introduce games that are **** for players?

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08-21-2017 , 12:24 AM

Videopro

Making TV

Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 19,240

Orleans Casino offered it in live action calling it "Free Flop Hold'em". Current Bravo shows it not running and one person on the wish list. 16 other tables are running. Safe to say it bombed?

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08-21-2017 , 01:14 AM

Conan776

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,748

They could make it even more exciting by doing away with community flop entirely, and instead deal each player their own five cards.

Then instead of a turn and river, letting the players still in the hand at the end of each betting round fold some of their cards and draw replacements from the deck.

If only I could think of a good name for this Hold 'Em variant, I bet it could be the next big thing....

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08-21-2017 , 01:18 AM

SemiFreddo

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 172

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Originally Posted by Conan776

Damn you are onto something here man! great idea!
Hmm maybe call it something like Draw 5 Cards or something idk man have to think it trough!

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08-21-2017 , 01:25 AM

Tutejszy

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,633

damn those greedy, self-entitled regs and their predatory behviour, like, you know, preflop hand selection, that will show them!

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08-21-2017 , 03:59 AM

punter11235

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Tbh I think this game is more interesting to play than standard NLHE. I would prefer some limited preflop action (like limit preflop, nl postflop) but this is good as well.
As every flop is multiway the game is also way way more difficult for computers to play well.

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08-21-2017 , 04:29 AM

batigoali

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Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 309

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Originally Posted by Conan776

5 stars

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08-21-2017 , 04:56 AM

#10

expat

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 246

Market Leader !

Leading the way in showing how to get round the 'No Flop, No Drop' principle so each and every hand gets raked.

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08-21-2017 , 06:15 AM

#11

abecede

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Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 357

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Originally Posted by coach999

Sure and how about not introduce games that are **** for players?

Just because you dont like it doesnt mean it should not be there at all.

This selfcentred arogance of people always anoys me. If you dont like it just dont play it.

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08-21-2017 , 11:52 AM

#12

sump

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You probably need a really tight value range on the flop in this type of game but I could see people punting off with TPTK.

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08-21-2017 , 02:34 PM

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ArtyMcFly

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Originally Posted by sump

You probably need a really tight value range on the flop in this type of game but I could see people punting off with TPTK.

Yeah, the correct strategy would be quite interesting. The first player to act on the flop would have to play roughly as tight as UTG plays pre-flop in a normal game (i.e. have a low VPIP, since 5 players are yet to act), and position would be massively valuable. I can imagine casual players with no positional awareness getting destroyed by overplaying one pair in this format.
I think the rake is around 5%, which doesn't sound too bad, but you're paying it in every hand, because you literally always see a flop, so that might mean the game is tough to beat even if you're up against whales.

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08-21-2017 , 04:15 PM

#14

sump

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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly

I think the game translate more so like how PLO plays where making a nutty hand is important. Hands like TPTK and 2pr to some extent lose a lot of value whereas a hand like a set or a 5 card hand like a straight or flush are going to be where you get most of your value from.

There will definitely be a change in dynamic in the sense that I can foresee more flop leads in this format since there is no pre-flop dynamic and ranges will be wide open.

I haven't played this game yet - will probably try it out when I get some free time but regardless I'm curious to know how the blinds work.

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08-21-2017 , 10:00 PM

#15

the_glaive

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Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 385

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Originally Posted by sump

You probably need a really tight value range on the flop in this type of game but I could see people punting off with TPTK.

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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly

Yeah, this is maybe not the worst idea ever. It is quite interesting to think about potential strategy, which will probably have to be extremely tight in most spots, because you will be up against literally any hand.

It will obviously also favor players with good post flop skills, which I think is not all that many, given that so many players these days rely on pre-flop aggression to get them through.

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08-21-2017 , 10:04 PM

#16

Wilbury Twist

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Originally Posted by Conan776

Wait for it... wait for it... I've got it: Full Hand Discard. Or maybe something more timely: Drain The Swamp.

Spoiler:

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08-22-2017 , 01:01 AM

#17

A_Schupick

Micros Bad Cop

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 8,271

Not really sure why same hate it so much. I can understand not wanting to play it, but I don't think that it's a "killing the game" type of thing. It actually might increase the skill edge in some respects, because you need to get better at hand reading.

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08-22-2017 , 02:25 AM

#18

Edgy Bra

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 69

Just introduce short deck hold em already, game seems super fun

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08-22-2017 , 05:37 AM

#19

BDHarrison

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 4,529

The vlogger poker game at Stones had a "bomb pot" after every dealer push, where everyone put in $15 blind in a 1/3 game and saw a flop. The idea of randomly doing something like this on 10% of hands might be interesting, especially if it becomes disconcerting to tight players who can't adjust to rules varying from hand to hand.

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08-22-2017 , 07:59 AM

#20

nutlol

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 117

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Originally Posted by sump

I think the game translate more so like how PLO plays where making a nutty hand is important.

I played it a bit yesterday and after awhile i thought that it plays like Omaha.
I liked it.

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08-22-2017 , 09:34 AM

#21

Avaritia

Confirmed 2500 hour haver

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 12,248

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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly

Its funny you say this, because this is very similar to the "toy game" created by live poker.

Imagine you could 5x and get 6-7 callers pre. How do you play ep and what value does tp have on different textures. More importantly, what is your cbet sizing.

I understand the dynamics are different as there you can hand select and the pot is raised so spr is lower, but i constantly see educated players with an online background that do not readily adapt to this game type.

Multiway strat is one of the most understudied aspects of nlhe imo.

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08-22-2017 , 10:45 AM

#22

KossuKukkula

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Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,805

Don't know how wrong I am but isnt pure agression the way to go? Atleast now when the game is new and people are figuring it out? You literally can have any two cards. Like when rush was a new game just 3betting a ton and making cbets allmost every time was really profitable. And like then people don't have huds I assume.

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08-24-2017 , 03:53 PM

#23

hypergeometry

adept

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 742

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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula

Seems like a perfect way to go broke

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08-24-2017 , 08:46 PM

#24

sdwhitt

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 188

Are they doing away with every other version of poker and only going to this? If not, step off the ledge. Seems to be geared towards casual players. I was watching some show and they were talking about another version of poker that took the 2-5 out of the deck. It's like Top Golf for cards.