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11-28-2013 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ansky
Can you elaborate on the sim cards, encryption stuff?
I really don't know anything about this kind of stuff. I would gladly mail the laptop, cell phones, USBs, and sim cards to someone who is more familiar with that sort of thing.

I will post screen shots of what I have on Monday.

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Originally Posted by MastaAces
you're waaaaaaay to naive to be in the kind of business that you're in. it's almost to the point where i have a hard time believing the story. wow...
hope you get your monies back asap, but more importantly that the thief gets what he deserves! gl!!
(trend: scammers really like using other people's showers.)

edit: what a premonition!
edit2: a simple google search of his username gave me very good indications to stay away from him. several respected players confirmed he sucked, many claimed the account is suspicious. what was your reaction when he said he was a plo hu pro that lost over a million dollars to black friday? did you just take his word for it? speechless.
Yes, I'm well aware this wasn't a shining moment for me. I don't think there is a shred of hope getting the money back, and that's fine.

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Originally Posted by Srslynotamoose
OP do you think he read the DHCG and saw you as an easy mark?
Possibly.

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Originally Posted by jungleman
is this the same flapjack from UB? He was awful

no idea why you decided to let him into your house/stake him...
He said he was the same Flapjack from UB. He had a picture from years ago of him driving a Cadillac SUV. There is also a user named Flapjack on a car forum asking about the car. I spoke with two guys he went to college with (because he had their names in notebooks) and the one mentioned that he was a millionaire and then blew all the money in the pit. He had seen his account balance before too. So I'm pretty sure it's the same guy.

Had I known the extent of how bad he was obv I never would have. I just looked at his PTR and gave him a trial run to see if we could work something out. Pretty much everyone in live poker is terrible so coaching someone to just be less terrible makes a decent amount of money.


Another thing I forgot to mention was that he had tons of bus/train/plane tickets. I think that was a reason the police might have been lazy. He is a drifter and they said he was probably real far away by now.

Dan had written a lot of really dark stuff down on notes (as in depressing not villainous) and although he was a scammer and a sick individual, I felt bad for him. I understand the feeling isn't widely shard.

Last edited by KyddDynamite; 11-28-2013 at 03:10 AM.
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11-28-2013 , 03:12 AM
One more question. After the train wreck that was DCHG and now this are you going to stay in the staking business?
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11-28-2013 , 03:13 AM
I bet he encrypted his laptop and it will be pretty much impossible to get on it.
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11-28-2013 , 03:33 AM
So this guy shows you no results and u just stake him based on his word when a lot of the online stuff is tracked?

You need a new business model and you need to stop leaving money lying around the house.
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11-28-2013 , 03:35 AM
So what is your plan when he returns in a few weeks to take his laundry out of the dryer?
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11-28-2013 , 03:41 AM
[x] OP has more money than he knows what to do with.
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11-28-2013 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Srslynotamoose
One more question. After the train wreck that was DCHG and now this are you going to stay in the staking business?
Yes, staking has been very good to me. Sure, you get some bad apples, but the amount of money I made of dhcg alone more than covers both scams, and I have lots of horses that do well that I don't make thread about.

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Originally Posted by chinamaniac
So this guy shows you no results and u just stake him based on his word when a lot of the online stuff is tracked?

You need a new business model and you need to stop leaving money lying around the house.
I had played with him before. I also looked at his PTR, and that was enough for me at the time to meet someone and see if we could work something out.

Whomever called me naive etc before pretty much nailed it. Like I said, not my best handled situation, but live and learn.
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11-28-2013 , 04:01 AM
is the golf photo in this album him?
http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/fl...?sort=3&page=1
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11-28-2013 , 04:06 AM
No, that's a screen shot of Two Months Two Million. He has those same Caddy pics, and ones with him in the picture on a USB though.
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11-28-2013 , 04:24 AM
sorry, its OT but i kinda laughed at his chatburn, "buy some longer shorts" and in the background is just_the_nuts golfing with krantz @ 2m2m

edit: sad story, interested in the dark notes tho, even though it's depressing stuff appearantly.
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11-28-2013 , 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by KyddDynamite
Yes, staking has been very good to me. Sure, you get some bad apples, but the amount of money I made of dhcg alone more than covers both scams, and I have lots of horses that do well that I don't make thread about.



I had played with him before. I also looked at his PTR, and that was enough for me at the time to meet someone and see if we could work something out.

Whomever called me naive etc before pretty much nailed it. Like I said, not my best handled situation, but live and learn.
I also looked at his ptr just now. Was up almost a half million mostly from HU PLO. You think he was cheating people?

What exactly was the list of stuff you found that could have been used to cheat people?

It looks like the guy prob did get screwed from black friday. He was up a half million on AP/UB and someone posted in his ptr comments he was sitting with a million @ Bj or something.

The general consensus from people the 6-7 page thread centered around him was that he was bad and many wanted to play him but he did win. Also possible he was a decent hu plo player and just sucked in ring and had no clue.

What was this dudes personality? Did he seem intelligent?
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11-28-2013 , 04:34 AM
When you guys say he was in your shower, did you see him wet and naked? Most likely both this and the other shower scammer just jumped in the bathroom and turned on the water when they heard you come in because they were in your room looking for $$$
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11-28-2013 , 05:11 AM
Feel really sorry for you. I understand how difficult it must have been to determine what to do.

For all the internet heroes who would call three of their buff friends... In real life, when someone who leaves depressing, dark notes in your house, who knows where you live and might be capable of God knows what, that kind of shaningans is not only wrong, but also dangerous. But then again. Internetheroes.

Good luck with it!
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11-28-2013 , 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TouchOfEVil
sorry, its OT but i kinda laughed at his chatburn, "buy some longer shorts" and in the background is just_the_nuts golfing with krantz @ 2m2m

edit: sad story, interested in the dark notes tho, even though it's depressing stuff appearantly.
I guess I could post pics of the stuff.

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Originally Posted by iggytt2
When you guys say he was in your shower, did you see him wet and naked? Most likely both this and the other shower scammer just jumped in the bathroom and turned on the water when they heard you come in because they were in your room looking for $$$
He wasn't in my shower. I have 3 showers, one by his room on the basement floor, one upstairs, and one upstairs in the master bedroom. He used the upstairs shower.

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Originally Posted by chinamaniac
I also looked at his ptr just now. Was up almost a half million mostly from HU PLO. You think he was cheating people?

What exactly was the list of stuff you found that could have been used to cheat people?

It looks like the guy prob did get screwed from black friday. He was up a half million on AP/UB and someone posted in his ptr comments he was sitting with a million @ Bj or something.

The general consensus from people the 6-7 page thread centered around him was that he was bad and many wanted to play him but he did win. Also possible he was a decent hu plo player and just sucked in ring and had no clue.

What was this dudes personality? Did he seem intelligent?
I don't know exactly. It's software I am not familiar with. For someone to have all the encryption stuff though, and have no job except poker is really suspicious.

His personality was very timid, shy, nervous. He could have just been initially intimidated by me. I was shocked to see the stuff he said in chat, but he commented to someone else in the house that he loved to be a dick to people online.

This is a Facebook conversation I had with a person Dan had written in his notebook of people.

Conversation started October 25
Chad Power
10/25, 5:06pm
Chad Power

Hello, I'm trying to get in contact with Dan Harner, but his cell phone has been off and he has me blocked on facebook. I was wondering if you would send him a message on my behalf?
***** ******
10/25, 5:16pm
***** ******

Who are you and why do you assume I still have contact with Dan?
Chad Power
10/25, 5:19pm
Chad Power

I was staking Dan for poker. He recently took off without warning and left all his stuff at my house. In the stuff was your name along with your car insurance information.
***** ******
10/25, 5:22pm
***** ******

Interesting, where do you live? I haven't seen or talked to Dan in months, last I knew he went to Vegas to gamble, I sent him 460 bucks western union

He owes me about 500 and I know I'll never see it

He's burned a lot of bridges, he has no family or friends because he's screwed people over
Chad Power
10/25, 5:23pm
Chad Power

Hanover Maryland. He stole some money off of me and wrote me a bad check and took off.
***** ******
10/25, 5:24pm
***** ******

I'm sorry he did that to you bro

He's really shady actually

I don't know how he got to Maryland

How much did you stake him?
Chad Power
10/25, 5:25pm
Chad Power

$5,000. Only because he wrote me a check (obviously dumb of me)
***** ******
10/25, 5:25pm
***** ******

Yeah, that's a lot of money geez

He's got a lot of bad karma coming to him

He told me there are mob guys in Chicago that want him dead

And that he was trying to move to Argentina to avoid them
Chad Power
10/25, 5:27pm
Chad Power

He stole more, I'm almost certain he took an extra $10k-$15k out of my room
***** ******
10/25, 5:27pm
***** ******

No way
Chad Power
10/25, 5:27pm
Chad Power

Ya
***** ******
10/25, 5:27pm
***** ******

Holy ****

That makes my 500 seem like nothing

I'm really sorry man

When did he leave?

And how did you meet him?
Chad Power
10/25, 5:29pm
Chad Power

He left Tuesday. I contacted another guy - ***** ******* - because Dan also had his name written down. This is what he just responded to me with...

"Heyy man. He was living with me before he came to you. I was hoping to somehow get ahold of you. He's up to know good man. Before he left he stole my laptop and iPad. I can't get ahold of him"
***** ******
10/25, 5:30pm
***** ******

Yeah me ***** and Dan went to college together

I wish I could help you somehow

But my money and your money is gone

As is James property

How did you meet him?
Chad Power
10/25, 5:34pm
Chad Power

I contacted Dan's mom. She was devastated to hear everything. It actually made me pretty sad as well. I also am going to file a police report too, of course.
***** ******
10/25, 5:35pm
***** ******

Here's my number, feel free to call or text me if you ever have any other questions



I'm glad his mom knows her son is a piece of ****

Yeah, that's all you can do bro


I had contacted Dan's mom when we went missing. She hadn't heard from him in a year or so, but per her request, I kept her posted on the situation. She was in tears on the phone and expressed how he had screwed over a lot of people, and an insight into his personal demons.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 11-28-2013 at 07:49 AM.
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11-28-2013 , 05:32 AM
was there any actual direct proof he was original account owner of flapjack?

surely cant be that hard to pick a screen name that's somewhat anonymous and trick people into thinking you are someone that you are not.
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11-28-2013 , 05:35 AM
Link to the DCHG/Kydd fiasco?
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11-28-2013 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by PoP T1me
was there any actual direct proof he was original account owner of flapjack?

surely cant be that hard to pick a screen name that's somewhat anonymous and trick people into thinking you are someone that you are not.
good point. it has been done before by scammers who have claimed to be the owner of other poker screen names.

Also OP did you ask him why he was showering upstairs?
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11-28-2013 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by PoP T1me
was there any actual direct proof he was original account owner of flapjack?

surely cant be that hard to pick a screen name that's somewhat anonymous and trick people into thinking you are someone that you are not.
I'm not sure what you're looking for.

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Originally Posted by MrSawyer
Link to the DCHG/Kydd fiasco?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...hread-1368332/
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11-28-2013 , 05:51 AM
No, I didn't see him the day he was showering. I had just come home from playing, and I went to my room. The other two guys who have rooms upstairs were at the casino, so I asked a horse who was on the couch who was in the shower to which he replied it was Dan.

I went to go do some things in my room, and before I got a chance to speak with him, he had left. It slipped my mind to ask when he came back a week later.
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11-28-2013 , 06:43 AM
Sick guy
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11-28-2013 , 08:11 AM
man, for the love of god, please do a little more research/background on total randos that you are letting into your life on that level.
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11-28-2013 , 09:16 AM
It is amazing what scammers/degens will do for money. Truly sad how many of these type threads pops up on 2+2.
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11-28-2013 , 09:42 AM
What i am about to write i do not believe

Someone is about to out OP as a trojan scammer

sets this up to get deflect heat when it happens
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11-28-2013 , 09:51 AM
The best part was searching the woods behind your house for him. Did it seem like the Blair Witch got ahold of him?
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11-28-2013 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by The4thFilm
The best part was searching the woods behind your house for him. Did it seem like the Blair Witch got ahold of him?
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