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06-19-2017 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MangoBall
Partypoker leading the industry these days in improvement and listening to players. Big ups. New rakeback is amazing. Live chat staff has been garbage but Collette and Pads has been great
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Originally Posted by AgressiveDog
partypoker made a brilliant move offering more rb in a point stars and 888 were basically as greedy as they can be , there was a lot of unhappy customers with these changes and party offered what we all wanted , sadlty they are blind to see how bad this hh change is ,

-regs need to pay $100usd a month to not be in a big disavantage.
-when the few regs who are not cheating realize all the other regs are cheating they will feel scammed
-when the RECS realize that all the regs are cheating they will feel scammed too and never come back , which will hurt games a lot , husker said there are people offering this hh convertor openly @ 2+2 so that a big tell about party poker security , the owners of the program are 100% sure party don't care and won't catch any cheaters thats why they are confident enough to made this program public even tho it breaks PP TOS
-a lot of pokerstars regulars like me actually won't move their action to party because we don't want to cheat but we don't want to be in a big disavantage too so you are going to miss a lot of deposits there.

the statement " we are sticking to our decision" its like saying we don't care what you guys think we are doing what we want even though your reasons are completely valid
so how should we proceed as regs ? maybe we should all mail the guys who give partypoker a gambling license ? maybe we can complain there so they can force party to bring a SAFE and FAIR environment to play poker what do you guys think?
LOL this **** is hilarious, literally back to back posts......... I'm guessing Mango didn't read a single post beyond the op.
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06-20-2017 , 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by uradoodooface
LOL this **** is hilarious, literally back to back posts......... I'm guessing Mango didn't read a single post beyond the op.
+1

1) Duthieball
2) Coletteball
3)Patrickball
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06-20-2017 , 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Labax
But they are technically welcome since you can't detect them and no one using them has been banned, right?
Watch this space..
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06-20-2017 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by *CHOMP
PATRICK. Up to 70% + or more of regilars on your site are in fact violating the TOS and cheating. Are you prepared to stop this immediately and issue significant refunds to the 30% playing fair (stupidly)?

what % of your stable use the converter? You don't know?

Again, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about lol.

There is just way more effective ways to spend time improving the site than replying to trolls here, but in MTT's you don't need a converter, its not anon.
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06-20-2017 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Again, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about lol.

There is just way more effective ways to spend time improving the site than replying to trolls here, but in MTT's you don't need a converter, its not anon.
Amazing you take the time to laugh at someone and then proceed to put them down instead of addressing the number of issues (and offered solutions) that have been brought up. Pretty sad.
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06-20-2017 , 07:15 AM
The thread gets clogged up with lot of random and repetitive spam/trolling from the same members, but I have addressed a bunch itt.

About people playing with any kind of 3rd party tool, its strictly prohibited and against our rules and we do not and will not tolerate it. I posted just above saying watch this space and there will be news on that in the short future.

If you are using a 3rd party tool and it isn't allowed then I strongly suggest for you to think otherwise about it.

As I said in a recent interview:

"“Previously the guy that would make the most money would be the guy with the best script or the best mental game/game selection. We want to move the goalposts a little bit. Our tournaments, are in my opinion, the best out there right now. For SNGs and Cash Games, we are trying to make a big effort to get to similar standards. For this to happen, we need people who will be there around the clock playing each other and building the site up.

“Somebody who watches their Bitcoin balances go up and down all day and sits in for 2-3 minutes when a weak player comes to lose their min-cash from a tournament is the last person in the world I want to reward. They are not poker players to me. They don’t follow the pure poker message we want to bring back to poker, and they will not be rewarded financially by us as a site compared to the guy who supports the site day in day out.”

There was a time around 5 years ago when there was a bunch of illegal rake back affiliates offering "under the table" rake back deals on lots of different networks. It was an issue to all poker sites at the time, over the next couple of years dozens of affiliates/people supplying illegal programs/deals or whatever else were seized of hundreds of thousands of $ of funds.

As I wrote previously here and many times said. In my opinion, if somebody is using a program that isn't allowed and are caught, all of their funds should be confiscated and given out to other players in the games.
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06-20-2017 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by racenutalways@hotm
I don't know why anybody would play at that site, software is bad compared to others, always has been.
My account got closed because I moved and had to change my personal info, they told my phone number is NOT my phone number...hahahahaha WTF Party, after talking to a rep, which took a month, he told me that my account is unblocked and I can go in and correct my info. Try to log in and nope, still blocked with same ****, this has been 4 months. Will not EVER play there. And I played there on and off for many years. The un-anamous BS protects the bots more and obviously this site needs these bots to look busy for their share holders.
Username please?
I am sure this is easily resolved
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06-20-2017 , 09:01 AM
can we get a response about whats going to happen regarding cashgame handhistory files?

ive been playing on party for 10 years. and also since the new hh format came up, but i have recently noted a lot of regulars playing much better vs me than they used to..
might be coincidence, but more likely... they have a HUD sample on me now...

i could solve this problem by playing pio gto, right?! haha

i will likely quit the site if this does not change any time soon.
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06-20-2017 , 10:15 AM
Reps have confirmed they aren't changing that. It's good for the games that the recs are even bigger underdogs now when only the regs who chooses to buy 3rd party tools to hunt them can do that.

But you should follow this thread. On a regular basis some rep or ambassador will tell you that we are aware of the problem and fixing that. Just wait just a little bit longer.
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06-20-2017 , 10:27 AM
I never played on party before, just opened an account a few weeks ago and liked, that there is no Hud available and you only see the names of the other players when you start playing.
Now I find out via this thread, that 70% of the regs use a Hud against me. WHAT!? Feels pretty scummy to me.

I guess I clear the welcome bonus and then goodbuy again.
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06-20-2017 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Nobel1
I never played on party before, just opened an account a few weeks ago and liked, that there is no Hud available and you only see the names of the other players when you start playing.
Now I find out via this thread, that 70% of the regs use a Hud against me. WHAT!? Feels pretty scummy to me.

I guess I clear the welcome bonus and then goodbuy again.
Partypoker were aware of the situation when you opened your account.

They disabled screen name changes in response to feedback from people who wanted to use software to analyse opponents. Give them a couple of months to re-enable screen name changes, if they don't then complain to your regulator.

If the UKGC introduced some kind of "sore loser" rules where the site had to stand the losses of losing players who'd had HUDs used against them then they might start taking this seriously.
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06-20-2017 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Trigger1981
Party are doing a lot right but they still do some dishonest stuff.

There is a UK staking company called Bankroll Supply.

They have a relationship with Party to put in players in certain sats/tournies to ensure that they run/get the numbers to meet the GTDs.

For this they get enchanced RB and special treatment. For example they can convert tickets into actual cash, which Party do not allow for anyone else.

If you are playing the 22/44 sats then you will be sitting with multiple people backed by BRS. they aren't hard to spot, most of them are UK based and the vast majority of them are just massive fish. they tend to only play the sats/the multiphase tournies and DTD sats too.

Unlike other staking companies, where their aim to to train the players to be the best they can be, BRS don't care that most of their stable is average. it is a numbers game to them hence why the majority of them are only allowed to play these low variance/high volume tournies. A lot of them are on government benefits and they are happy to grind all day for less than minimum wage.

They collude when its on the bubble of the sats too. i mean you cant prove it because there is sat strategy but you see the same names raise/folding or giving walks or folding the BB to 2bb jams. this is of course inevitable when you have 20/30 runner fields and 10 are BRS players. The mega sats are ok still but you want to avoid the smaller ones that run in the day.

Dusk Til Dawn have had a very long relationship with BRS. Whenever an event is looking like overlaying, suddenly a load of busto players turn up to late reg. About a year/18 months ago I was playing an event at DTD where you could buy in direct to day 2 for Ł2k. They were looking like having a big miss with regards to the guarantee. I was sat down and playing, and suddenly a guy I am friendly with takes the empty seat next to me. He has just ‘bought in’. However 2 days before this same guy borrowed Ł20 off me for petrol to get home. I haven’t played an event at DTD since. Honest players who pay rake and multiple entries, and any time the overlay looks like its gonna be big the same old punters are put in by BRS for a massively reduced fee.

In contrast Patrick Leonard's stable has a very different approach where if the field sizes are small then the horses don't play, or they keep it to a fair percentage of the field, so that these conflicts don't come up. However, iIt does worry me that they may be sharing hand histories and it would be nice if Patrick could be transparent about this.
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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
BRS can not convert tickets to cash - the tickets rule stand the same as with all players
Neither do they have any special "rake back" deals


If you have any proof/evidence of collusion please share and I can assure you the team will deal with any issues

With regards to any relationship between DTD and BRS I can not comment as I do not work for DTD however I dont believe the statement above is 100% correct
Very concerned about the bolded as i know this is 100% false. Only 2 options the rep isn't aware of the under the table deal or is covering it up.

Could be either seems quite a serious charge when party has these stupid 24 hour expiry dates on the satty tickets yet they allow a stable to grind sattys and convert all tickets to cash.

Paul Jackson has a history of this. I beleive he had his own ipoker skin years ago called poker encore. Got his whole stable grinding on there and pocketing all the rake they paid there while giving them some rakeback.
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06-20-2017 , 01:12 PM
I have a reason more : Their very bad exchange rates.

Whats fkn up with that? Why not take a 2% or whatever fee and stop the hustlin? Its so intransparent. Where are these exchange rates coming from?
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06-20-2017 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
About people playing with any kind of 3rd party tool, its strictly prohibited and against our rules and we do not and will not tolerate it. I posted just above saying watch this space and there will be news on that in the short future.

If you are using a 3rd party tool and it isn't allowed then I strongly suggest for you to think otherwise about it.
Hand histories have been anonymous for around a year now and the hh convertors have been around almost as long. It would be a bit more reassuring after all this time if the reply was 'We've caught x amount of players, confiscated funds totalling y and redistributed these funds to those they played against'. Saying watch this space is pretty much implying that nothing of the sort has happened during all this time but something might happen down the line.
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06-21-2017 , 04:43 AM
I'm a little out of the loop - is the Hand History problem only prominent in regular cash games or is their Zoom format affected by it as well? Thinking of moving my roll there but this controversy makes me think twice about that.
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06-21-2017 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by asdf321
I'm a little out of the loop - is the Hand History problem only prominent in regular cash games or is their Zoom format affected by it as well? Thinking of moving my roll there but this controversy makes me think twice about that.
I think it's only regular tables.
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06-21-2017 , 05:32 AM
^^^

HUDs work on their Zoom-format without converter afaik. Obv no idea if this is gonna change.
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06-21-2017 , 05:33 AM
Thanks for the answers.
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06-21-2017 , 10:04 AM
any one having hud issues on party poker after their new update today ?

not working correctly on fast fold for me
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06-21-2017 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MR McDonald
any one having hud issues on party poker after their new update today ?

not working correctly on fast fold for me
I could be wrong but from memory I think Party doesn't engage with the software developers so they're always likely to be a bit behind with any changes Party makes.
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06-21-2017 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Husker
I could be wrong but from memory I think Party doesn't engage with the software developers so they're always likely to be a bit behind with any changes Party makes.
RIP

my friend restarted the pt4 client and it fixed his problem still buggy for me

hopefully pt4 does a update sooooooooooooon
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06-21-2017 , 11:45 PM
Why the mtt ticket expire in 7 days? It was unlimited than it was valid for 30 days now just one week. Reason? Steal money from players who forget to play within 7 days?
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06-22-2017 , 12:05 PM
Five OtToMH reasons for and against

- EU tax free
- tournament action (with a hud)
- money relatively safe
- maybe no deposit and or withdrawal costs anymore
- tourney tickets might not expire as soon as you fail to enter the next tourney for it (like it does at juicystakes and some at 888)
- there rates to be something right in tournaments

+ you MIGHT not be able to see the country of a player you are playing against (at stars I definitely mark -- or marked as I boycott them -- Russia, Brazil, East Europe and it is was not a small thing)
+ resizing of the window doesnt quite get large enough for me with my gaming laptop (would need to chance that in my computer, that might work, and might be fine at other sites at the same time)
+ disconnects (5 minutes of testing got a disconnect)
+ random auto folding perhaps (a never fixed bug?)
+ suspect botters lose their money and get banned, and that could be you
+ converter users not verified as busted
+ there rates to be something wrong in tournaments
+ satellite related tickets might expire in 24 hours.
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06-24-2017 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
The thread gets clogged up with lot of random and repetitive spam/trolling from the same members, but I have addressed a bunch itt.

About people playing with any kind of 3rd party tool, its strictly prohibited and against our rules and we do not and will not tolerate it. I posted just above saying watch this space and there will be news on that in the short future.

If you are using a 3rd party tool and it isn't allowed then I strongly suggest for you to think otherwise about it.

As I said in a recent interview:

"“Previously the guy that would make the most money would be the guy with the best script or the best mental game/game selection. We want to move the goalposts a little bit. Our tournaments, are in my opinion, the best out there right now. For SNGs and Cash Games, we are trying to make a big effort to get to similar standards. For this to happen, we need people who will be there around the clock playing each other and building the site up.

“Somebody who watches their Bitcoin balances go up and down all day and sits in for 2-3 minutes when a weak player comes to lose their min-cash from a tournament is the last person in the world I want to reward. They are not poker players to me. They don’t follow the pure poker message we want to bring back to poker, and they will not be rewarded financially by us as a site compared to the guy who supports the site day in day out.”

There was a time around 5 years ago when there was a bunch of illegal rake back affiliates offering "under the table" rake back deals on lots of different networks. It was an issue to all poker sites at the time, over the next couple of years dozens of affiliates/people supplying illegal programs/deals or whatever else were seized of hundreds of thousands of $ of funds.

As I wrote previously here and many times said. In my opinion, if somebody is using a program that isn't allowed and are caught, all of their funds should be confiscated and given out to other players in the games.


THERE Is the caveat. "If caught".

Are you personally going to catch them? In Vegas?

How about your security team that has been caught opening threads here posting players work to try and confirm because they are simply too stupid to figure it out. You have current games here overrun with cheating and tools used and sold here openly that your clearly not stopping, you have new rakeback encouraging more play and a philosophy of encouraging multi tabling that furhter encourages thhese cheaters. Where is my refunds? Where are others? The US government wants to stop terrorism. Hows that working out? Your just blowong sound here and hundreds of thousands of dollars will be lost before your tinelines even start. Shut down your site and figure stuff out maybe it will encourage you to move faster. I think you are full of it because the very basic start to fix fairness for us clean players is reinstating hand histories as mentioned 200x and you knuckleheads can't even get that figured out.

Con artists
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06-24-2017 , 11:41 AM
When does it get to the point where police or regulators are involved here to see how this security issue keeps going on when its facilitated by at minimum the hand history debacle. Either party poker management are involved in this financially or they are complete imbeciles. Either way ALL players not cheating and easiky getting away with it should stay far away from this company
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