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07-19-2017 , 07:07 AM
I couldnt agree more. I was really thinking to move my action in PP but it seems the cons are more than the pros
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07-19-2017 , 07:38 AM
i love the trend of calling chest a coffin, very funny!
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07-19-2017 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jesusdied4urquads
Could this bug have anything to do with the 3rd party softwares mixgrill uses?
Sorry to derail but wtf is that on the table, it's been the cover pic of the thread for ages.
Pretty sure if there's a PT4 rep around they'll confirm it isn't a bug with their software.
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07-20-2017 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mixgrill
I normally wouldn't start a thread in anger, but Party Poker has really taken it too far.
Here's why we shouldn't play on this horrible site anymore.

1. They allow cheating

A whilo ago, I was open sitting an anonymous table, and a well known high stakes player scripted and sat on my direct left.
The table breaks, I open a new one and he sits again within a tenth of a second. This went on for another four or five times.
I open support and tell him to watch the table. I re seat, and this guy instantly scripts me again. The support member confirms that this is blatant cheating and it will be investigated and they would contact me about the situation.
The scripter never received any punishment, and I was never contacted either.
I also sent them a list of offenders, which they said will be investigated. They're all still around.

The rules clearly state you can't use a script, yet they didn't do anything about it.


2. Changing the rake back system and expiring old points

I had over 21.000 points on Party Poker. I asked a support member if they would ever expire, and he told me that I can convert them whenever I want.
Nobody ever informed me about this change. I assume most recreationals had no idea either.
And now, my money is gone.


3. Software bugs

There's a bug where the buttons in the software chance.
For instance, when you raise, it calls and when you call, it folds. I have had this bug at least 10 times, and it has cost me comfortably over 2.500 dollar.
Not to mention the money I could have won when I had a good hand, or the EV I had on the table that I had to leave.
Folded a set of tens in a 1k 3bet pot on T92r cost me 450 dollars, but way more in reality.

I told support about this a couple of times. They said they would review it, and I never even got answer.
I'm currently in touch with the 2+2 party support staff, so I hope they will at least respond to me and reimburse me.


4. No reimbursement for disconnects on their end

I played a session across three sites, and Party went down. I was still able to play on the other sites, and browse the internet. I asked another player at the table and he had had the same problem.
Of course, support says they will have their team look into it, and I never get an email response. But I will get spammed with random promotions all the time.


5. Support staff disconnects when they feel like it

When I use the live chat function when there is an issue, often times they will disconnect on me in the middle of the conversation. I will have to open a new chat and tell the whole story again, only for them to leave again.

We simply want a fair opportunity to play poker, without being cheated on or stolen from.

Party Poker is a shady, greedy and dishonest poker site that condones cheating, doesn't give a damn about its customers and outright takes their money
We should boycott it until they own up their mistakes and start treating their customers fairly.


TWO MONTHS have gone by.

What has changed? What has improved?


NOTHING

Lets wait for the big software unvail. But what game integrity improvements will have been made. That same as the last 10 years

NONE
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07-21-2017 , 03:50 AM
You're like a broken record CHOMP just don't play there if you have that big of a problem and your problem is solved.
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07-21-2017 , 08:24 AM
Party Poker stole my money! I had tried using a device (not a bot, I still played each hand) that calculated pot odds for me. I was warned not to use it and I stopped. Once again, this was only an odds calculator, I was playing every hand myself. After that every time I played on Party Poker I would get the same warning, even though I wasn't using the calculator. I contacted someone with Party Poker and explained the situation to him and he told me it had been taken care of. I didn't have to worry about these warnings.

A few days later my account was closed and over $5,000 was confiscated from me. They had a companion site at the time (Empire Poker) and they closed my account on there as well with nearly $2,000 in it. I tried complaining to people at Party Poker and was told they would look into it, but my money was never refunded to me. I never cheated and I never used a bot to play. This was years ago but I never forgot that bad experience with Party Poker. It still angers me when I think about it. I never trusted online poker after that and got completely out before Black Friday. Thank God!
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07-21-2017 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by U shove i call
You're like a broken record CHOMP just don't play there if you have that big of a problem and your problem is solved.
Don't listen to him. CHOMP is probablt hired by Pokerstars.
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07-21-2017 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletFlush
Don't listen to him. CHOMP is probablt hired by Pokerstars.
I am an independent contractor!

Pokerstars is even worse. Well, maybe tied.
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07-22-2017 , 01:46 AM
Ive played on Party for 6+- months now. Have had no issues at all. In any regard.

Also my 57% RB is pretty sweet after leaving stars, seeing the changes that would come.

57% RB > 4% RB.
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07-22-2017 , 04:03 AM
Unibet is a site the community should get behind, not a cheater and bot infested, crappy software site like PP or 888!! This new rb-scheme won't last long anyway, by Jan1 you will be opening chests on PP too!
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07-22-2017 , 09:54 AM
There you have it. They can't even see something so obv in their databases. Way to treat a rec playee. How in the world are they catching bot software which is basically running invisibly on one's computer?
Oh and players who rake $24/ week get nothing? Worse than stars holy ****!
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07-22-2017 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by coach999
Oh and players who rake $24/ week get nothing? Worse than stars holy ****!
Have to agree what % of your players fit into this category? Would look into lowering the minimum threshold to earn some rakeback.
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07-22-2017 , 11:21 AM
Is there an official thread where you can report bugs/fixes on PartyPoker about software. I have several issues that I'd like to report to greatly increase the overall gaming environment.

Last edited by leetnewb; 07-22-2017 at 11:27 AM.
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07-22-2017 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by U shove i call
Have to agree what % of your players fit into this category? Would look into lowering the minimum threshold to earn some rakeback.
I'd assume not many active players fit in this category. I'd guess less than 20%? And they aren't very beneficial to the site anyway. On stars you would earn 2 bucks so it's kinda whatever.

However I would think that it wouldn't cost PP that much to add this group into their loyalty program.
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07-22-2017 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Toupee Jay
Party Poker stole my money! I had tried using a device (not a bot, I still played each hand) that calculated pot odds for me. I was warned not to use it and I stopped. Once again, this was only an odds calculator, I was playing every hand myself. After that every time I played on Party Poker I would get the same warning, even though I wasn't using the calculator. I contacted someone with Party Poker and explained the situation to him and he told me it had been taken care of. I didn't have to worry about these warnings.

A few days later my account was closed and over $5,000 was confiscated from me. They had a companion site at the time (Empire Poker) and they closed my account on there as well with nearly $2,000 in it. I tried complaining to people at Party Poker and was told they would look into it, but my money was never refunded to me. I never cheated and I never used a bot to play. This was years ago but I never forgot that bad experience with Party Poker. It still angers me when I think about it. I never trusted online poker after that and got completely out before Black Friday. Thank God!
They don't want winners. They want net depositors. If you're a consistent winner they will find a way to steal the money and ban you. They're not the only site to do this.
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07-22-2017 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by leetnewb
I'd assume not many active players fit in this category. I'd guess less than 20%? And they aren't very beneficial to the site anyway. On stars you would earn 2 bucks so it's kinda whatever.

However I would think that it wouldn't cost PP that much to add this group into their loyalty program.
not sure, how much does the typical 1-tabling micro player rake per week? imagine guys who rake 20 bucks a week playing few MTTs, at the end of the month it adds up and what do they get? maybe nothing. That'd be very unfortunate as those guys are depositing regularly...
Also, not unlikely that some recs forget to opt-in and then boom nothing for them either. Overall that loyalty program doesn't sound rec friendly to me. Too bad.
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07-22-2017 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by leetnewb
Is there an official thread where you can report bugs/fixes on PartyPoker about software. I have several issues that I'd like to report to greatly increase the overall gaming environment.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...thread-906098/
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07-23-2017 , 03:06 AM
My experience with pp:
Attempted to wd funds from Thailand (have deposited from here many times), email response:
"Your account is on a temporary hold, as the location from which you are playing is a different country from the address registered with us. To ensure that no one else is using your information on the internet, please send a copy of your self-certified passport".

My old email account is now closed. So I emailed this documentation from my new email account. I left it for 29 days (until today) to chase it up. I speak with livechat and am told:
"As you did not meet the security standards conditions, we closed your account for good and funds are seized. We received documents from you in email which are not as per our security standards. Your account cannot be reactivated".

I didnt receive ANY communication regarding this.

Cliffs: I deposit on PP before from Thailand with no problems. As soon as I want a wd, ac is locked and id requested. ID sent, but unapproved, so fk you we will close your ac and keep your funds, without telling you.

Fk off pp
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07-23-2017 , 03:54 AM
^^ This is crazy! Create your own thread, spread the word.
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07-23-2017 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Adjusted
They don't want winners. They want net depositors. If you're a consistent winner they will find a way to steal the money and ban you. They're not the only site to do this.
I had made a couple of deposits but got lucky in the Sunday tourney and made the second table and won almost 4K. I was only playing in small Limit games when this happened.
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07-23-2017 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Steamraise9
My experience with pp:
Attempted to wd funds from Thailand (have deposited from here many times), email response:
"Your account is on a temporary hold, as the location from which you are playing is a different country from the address registered with us. To ensure that no one else is using your information on the internet, please send a copy of your self-certified passport".

My old email account is now closed. So I emailed this documentation from my new email account. I left it for 29 days (until today) to chase it up. I speak with livechat and am told:
"As you did not meet the security standards conditions, we closed your account for good and funds are seized. We received documents from you in email which are not as per our security standards. Your account cannot be reactivated".

I didnt receive ANY communication regarding this.

Cliffs: I deposit on PP before from Thailand with no problems. As soon as I want a wd, ac is locked and id requested. ID sent, but unapproved, so fk you we will close your ac and keep your funds, without telling you.

Fk off pp

Wow crazy

I cashed out 90% of my winnings because i do not trust party poker security to protect my money. I watch responses here and my experience with them recently- they said customer support would drastically be better but it took 3 days to get a easy response, something the PP rep didn't even know ( do they know their own product offerings?) i was not aware the 100X were split 3 ways so my bad but how does a rep not quickly know this. This is your product and lifeblood. PP agents like TODOR are still disconnecting, support is still horribly slow and how can you not quickly check who won jackpot games on your site? Thats just weird. I don't believe stopping all the rule breakers on your site is any better

*GULP
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07-23-2017 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Steamraise9
My experience with pp:
Attempted to wd funds from Thailand (have deposited from here many times), email response:
"Your account is on a temporary hold, as the location from which you are playing is a different country from the address registered with us. To ensure that no one else is using your information on the internet, please send a copy of your self-certified passport".

My old email account is now closed. So I emailed this documentation from my new email account. I left it for 29 days (until today) to chase it up. I speak with livechat and am told:
"As you did not meet the security standards conditions, we closed your account for good and funds are seized. We received documents from you in email which are not as per our security standards. Your account cannot be reactivated".

I didnt receive ANY communication regarding this.

Cliffs: I deposit on PP before from Thailand with no problems. As soon as I want a wd, ac is locked and id requested. ID sent, but unapproved, so fk you we will close your ac and keep your funds, without telling you.

Fk off pp
So party poker reps.... wattup?!?!?!?!?!?!
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07-23-2017 , 02:53 PM
Lol, so clearly some of these "people" are stars agents or whatever.

Party stealing your funds? lol.

3 Posts? lol.

Support is always super fast imo, 10x compared to pizzstars...

Party even has 24/7 chat which Stars does not.
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07-24-2017 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Can you confirm your username by PM please and I will take this up with CS management
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Originally Posted by PAYzeemanhizmoney
I am not able to PM

Do you have a personal email where i can provide the details.

Also, i just sent a fourth email and second screenshots of this happening to info at party. It is titled forward to Collette urgent manager. It should be easy to filter this. What's going on? I have to fight to get this looked at and how does your gameplay not pay out properly? Is this happening with chip stacks in games? Have i not been paid properly before in smaller amounts and not noticed? You wouldn't even be able to tell me

YIKERS!

I do not share my personal email address due to previous abuse by posters - I manage these threads to deal with feedback and issues
You can post on either of the official partypoker threads and you will receive a prompt response We aim to quickly resolve any issues

If you can not PM I would suggest you share your username
I am not in the customer service teams FYI and I can not resolve issues without full details


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Originally Posted by PAYzeemanhizmoney
Can you not just quickly see who won a 1000$ hero game yesterday and see who wasn't paid properly
Not without usernames - no
However as you state the game paid correctly - findind any issues would have been impossible when the game functions as it should
To resolve issues - if you wish support via this forum - you need to provide details and a username


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Originally Posted by Steamraise9
My experience with pp:
Attempted to wd funds from Thailand (have deposited from here many times), email response:
"Your account is on a temporary hold, as the location from which you are playing is a different country from the address registered with us. To ensure that no one else is using your information on the internet, please send a copy of your self-certified passport".

My old email account is now closed. So I emailed this documentation from my new email account. I left it for 29 days (until today) to chase it up. I speak with livechat and am told:
"As you did not meet the security standards conditions, we closed your account for good and funds are seized. We received documents from you in email which are not as per our security standards. Your account cannot be reactivated".

I didnt receive ANY communication regarding this.

Cliffs: I deposit on PP before from Thailand with no problems. As soon as I want a wd, ac is locked and id requested. ID sent, but unapproved, so fk you we will close your ac and keep your funds, without telling you.

Fk off pp
You also posted this on our Facebook community groups and it was addressed promptly by myself
You were sent emails -albeit likely to the old email
It is the players responsibility to provide updated contacted details We can not communicate if players do not provide valid details
Our team have tried to reach you via phone - the number is invalid
The ID sent is not acceptable
Please provide a valid phone number and email so the team can follow up and resolve either via this forum or the FB group



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Originally Posted by PAYzeemanhizmoney
Wow crazy

I cashed out 90% of my winnings because i do not trust party poker security to protect my money. I watch responses here and my experience with them recently- they said customer support would drastically be better but it took 3 days to get a easy response, something the PP rep didn't even know ( do they know their own product offerings?) i was not aware the 100X were split 3 ways so my bad but how does a rep not quickly know this. This is your product and lifeblood. PP agents like TODOR are still disconnecting, support is still horribly slow and how can you not quickly check who won jackpot games on your site? Thats just weird. I don't believe stopping all the rule breakers on your site is any better

*GULP
I will look into the disconnection issue with the rep - this will be reviewed by the Customer service management team
Regarding your query possibly the agent was not a poker specialist and needed to escalate the query hence the delay
We are currently building a new team and will have specialists via product on hand 24/7
Improvements are underway these will not happen overnight and we appreciate the patience while we implement improvements



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Originally Posted by PAYzeemanhizmoney
COLLETTE

It's very apparent Party Pokerare continuing to fail badly at support and game integrity. You didn't even realize the answer to my question. I felt silly when I learned the answer, but you should of recognized this immediately. I know 12 year olds who could be more professional than your continued failing customer support.

Emlloyee TODOR is disconnecting live chats and thats only 1/1. Odds are it's still a common practice. You're paying people to do this. How are you attempting to stop sophisticated chates when you cannot even search who wins jackpots on your site. This is ALaRMING

Thanks for your time. And my large cashout

As for your game integrity

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=32363

The employee issue will be dealt with as per my statement above - it was one instance I dont believe this warrants a witch hunt
I consider the issue resolved - your feedback has been noted and your issue has been resolved

Thanks

Colette

Colette
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07-25-2017 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DublinMeUp
Sorry to derail but wtf is that on the table, it's been the cover pic of the thread for ages.
Pretty sure if there's a PT4 rep around they'll confirm it isn't a bug with their software.
i think it's table management / hotkey software , ive seen it before
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