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Fedor Holz up over M in less than 2 months! Fedor Holz up over M in less than 2 months!

08-23-2016 , 03:18 PM
She was a guest on yesterdays SHR coverage and when she came on, she basically asked if Fedor just luckboxed his way to the chip lead again. Commentators told her that he always made the right calls/folds and also got opponents to make the wrong calls/folds and her response was like "hmmkay" and she didn't say anything about it again.

So she didn't hate at him but it looked like she was looking for confirmation that he's the biggest luck box ever. Other than that she did a pretty good job on the broadcast imo and was spot-on most of the time.
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08-23-2016 , 03:51 PM
Holz min cashed the 25kHR. Confirmed run good is gone. GG
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08-23-2016 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by j20s
You are absurdly dumb. Never have been and never will be jealous of any tourney clowns. They trade money with each other and most of them are busto or in massive makeup. This one person is a massive luckbox, the only thing separating himself from the other people who play these events over and over. And yea, winning all these events with infinite all ins that he has minimal equity is defying math. Wow, that guy who won 12/12 blackjack hands is so skilled at blackjack! Show yourself out, clown.
Wow, you sound like a really jealous 16 year old fan boy of Fedor, who accidental snubbed you for an autograph recently. Sorry about that, it wasn't on purpose 'Stan'.
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08-23-2016 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Roc_Xel
Nah, lol at you. This post is quite pathetic and the definite proof you know nothing about tournies. Which is a good thing since you call them "idiot tourney players", at least you're not part of them. You're just "idiot" without the rest, I guess it makes it much better !
You will be busto like every other tourney pro once their luckbox dries up. And I do know plenty about MTT players, you are another moron who doesn't realize almost all of them are broke and/or in massive makeup. Keep trading rake and hope to net pennies by rubbing your luckbox!
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08-23-2016 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
Yea yea we get it. You are cash game GTO wizard of all wizards.

Too bad a game like MTTs has no GTO paths, it's just rolling dice.

Do yourself and us a favor. Think more, post less.
Yea, bacc and bj have GTO paths too. It must be the skill that derives profit, not running way over EV.
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08-23-2016 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
If you were half as smart as you think you are, you'd figure out on your own how to find the NVG highstakes thread with the YTD results..

Even before he won the WCOOP ME on Stars for $1.3 million two years ago, everybody who talked to him about poker was impressed about his thought process. In fact, you and Vanessa Selbst are prolly the only players who don't think he's insanely good. Go figure.
The great irony being that Selbst isn't good either. I seldom post on NVG, let alone spend my days reading threads of HHs. He is nothing special other than luckier than should even be mathematically possible. lol fanboys. Waiting for the non super standard HHs. And maybe a few where he gets it in with terrible equity and actually loses.
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08-23-2016 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace upmy Slv
Wow, you sound like a really jealous 16 year old fan boy of Fedor, who accidental snubbed you for an autograph recently. Sorry about that, it wasn't on purpose 'Stan'.
Wow, you sound unable to refute anything I said, 'Clown'.
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08-23-2016 , 06:26 PM
j20, is erik seidel a luckbox clown? what about ivey? mckeehan? kaverman? baron? moorman?

are you saying every single winning tournament player over large sample sizes, including the highest stakes crushers, are all just eternal luckboxes? and somehow the guys who beat cash games year after year and the true wizards because they make correct decisions in a different format?

you havent really offered any kind of mathematical of scientific though process related to your opinions. you need to put forward a solid argument if anybody is to take you seriously. you really just sound like a jealous hater who is likely down heaps in MTTs in your lifetime. give us some proof to the contrary, or just shut up and go whine in the micro forum about your aces getting cracked again.

the argument is simple and straightforward: there is a large "luck" element in any given MTT. you need to run well and have your hands hold up in all ins, including flips and underdog situations. however, if you are a winning player over a large sample size, like fedor has been, including CRUSHING the absolute highest stakes against the best players in the world, that is all but irrefutable proof that you are a world class player who is not only highly skilled but excellent at adaptation. fedor is just that. by not admitting it you are just showing your ignorance. you dont have to suck the guys wang or anything. just admit hes a boss who is 100000x better at poker than you ever will be. you sound like one of those guys who says "evolution aint real cuz i said so!" or "climate change aint real cuz it still snows!".

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08-23-2016 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by j20s
Wow, you sound unable to refute anything I said, 'Clown'.
my god, you are such an insufferable piece of **** on these boards

every single post is a joke, every single post with your pathetic 2 cents in threads about MTTs
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08-23-2016 , 08:09 PM
maybe just ignore j20s. he's either an idiot a troll or both. dude seriously needs a ban. gto douchiness he is.

also, just watched the full stream of 50K Barcelona up to when heads up started

saying that he just luckboxed his way to another win is just wrong.

did he get lucky in several spots? for sure. all winners do. but he also made some great plays too.
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08-23-2016 , 08:50 PM
every post of his, looking through them, is straight negative. Guy must be a real f*ckin' loser on and off 2p2.
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08-23-2016 , 08:52 PM
lol at how many of you clowns repeatedly say "did he get lucky? yea, sure." over and over again, referencing different tournaments, yet fail to come to the conclusion that he is simply a luckbox who runs way over ev. lol tourney fanboys. None of you actually play anything and are dumb enough to think skill matters anywhere near as much in mtts. They are a joke made for people who are terrible at poker, so their luck can compensate for skill. Such clowns.
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08-23-2016 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by j20s
lol at how many of you clowns repeatedly say "did he get lucky? yea, sure." over and over again, referencing different tournaments, yet fail to come to the conclusion that he is simply a luckbox who runs way over ev. lol tourney fanboys. None of you actually play anything and are dumb enough to think skill matters anywhere near as much in mtts. They are a joke made for people who are terrible at poker, so their luck can compensate for skill. Such clowns.
Bitter American who probably can't beat live 500nl; considering killing himself every other day.
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08-23-2016 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by you_wot_m8
j20, is erik seidel a luckbox clown? what about ivey? mckeehan? kaverman? baron? moorman?
Ivey doesn't play tourneys now, because he knows the actual money is in cash, where skill matters. Seidel certainly has way less money than you think, and he is a Clinton fan, which says all you need to know about his smarts. YES, McKeehan is a massive luckbox. Another totally standard tourney player making basic decisions and running super hot. Maybe he will get it in drawing to 4 outs again this year with 15 left and win? Such skill.

Don't even know who the rest are, I assume busto "tourney pros" like "Fischman? Seif? Cantu?" All mtt pros end up busto eventually, because they aren't good at poker, just varied degrees of run good. The best part is none of you ever have or will play in bigger games. Just like most of these clowns don't, because they couldn't beat them, else they wouldn't trade rake like the busto tourney pros that they are. lol tourney fanboys.
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08-23-2016 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gallajio
Bitter American who probably can't beat live 500nl; considering killing himself every other day.
You couldn't be more incorrect, but why start being correct now? Ohhh "American," what an insult! Really laid it on there!
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08-23-2016 , 09:02 PM
Positive I'm spot on.
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08-23-2016 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gallajio
Positive I'm spot on.
Add it to the list of things your third world brain is wrong about.
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08-23-2016 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
maybe just ignore j20s. he's either an idiot a troll or both. dude seriously needs a ban. gto douchiness he is.

also, just watched the full stream of 50K Barcelona up to when heads up started

saying that he just luckboxed his way to another win is just wrong.

did he get lucky in several spots? for sure. all winners do. but he also made some great plays too.
Link for the full stream plz ?
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08-23-2016 , 09:23 PM
Haha I get a Scurra/Ja$onB vibe from j20s. Tells you how it is
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08-23-2016 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by namisgr11
Fedor has been crushing not only live SHRs but beating online mtts with monstrous fields for a few years. Consequently, it's unfair and inaccurate to chalk up his extraordinary live record to small playing fields.

As for variance, his mtt record is at the extreme far right edge of the poisson distribution, making it enormously unlikely from a statistical perspective that variance alone accounts for his fantastic record. The dude may be benefitting from running above EV (not that anyone in the thread has actually posted statistically valid evidence to support this), but he's also a really, really good mtt player who crushes fields of all sizes.

Very, very impressive.
You really need statistical evidence to know Fedor is running like God? Dude is good at tournaments but to deny his run good is insanity
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08-23-2016 , 10:23 PM
j20s you seem to fail to understand you can be both a luckbox and really, really good
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08-23-2016 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by j20s
all of them are broke and/or in massive makeup. Keep trading rake and hope to net pennies by rubbing your luckbox!
this is actually true except all of them is a bit of an exaggeration
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08-23-2016 , 11:30 PM
I watch some of that FT where he won, and the standard of play was on the level of a $3 mtt on 888. Some ****** limp called off most of his stack with kqo. All the play was passive post flop just, check, call or fold, nobody making moves. Level of play is a joke.
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08-24-2016 , 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Cold10Bet
Link for the full stream plz ?


https://www.pokerstars.com/en/tv/live/


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Originally Posted by mirage01
I watch some of that FT where he won, and the standard of play was on the level of a $3 mtt on 888. Some ****** limp called off most of his stack with kqo. All the play was passive post flop just, check, call or fold, nobody making moves. Level of play is a joke.
please let us know when I can watch you on a high roller live stream so I can be amazed with your wizard-ness.

and fyi when table started there were 2-3 shorties, with big ladders. so ya... pretty basic play for a while. think about it.

Last edited by PTLou; 08-24-2016 at 04:34 AM.
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08-24-2016 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by j20s
Seidel certainly has way less money than you think, and he is a Clinton fan, which says all you need to know about his smarts.
Boys,I think we have ourselves a Trump fan over here. Makes sense now, considering the way he talks.

Dude, why invest all the energy into trying to prove a point here? We all play poker because we love it. Period.
You sound like a very bitter person who probably plays for all the wrong reasons. I'm sure you're not alone though.

On topic: massive props to Fedor. Amazing accomplishments
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