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Old 06-28-2012, 09:10 AM   #16
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Re: EU Plans Illegal Online Gambling Crackdown, Rules on Legal Sites

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We need to have a voice into these talks.. is there a PPA-like organization in Europe?
You had your chance, sorry

http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/...ambling_en.htm
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:44 AM   #17
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Re: EU Plans Illegal Online Gambling Crackdown, Rules on Legal Sites

doesn't it seems impossible that out of EU players would be allowed to play on these sites?
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:00 AM   #18
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So i guess at least you told them , open markets more liquidity ,
.eu pool shared with .com etcetc?
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:01 AM   #19
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Re: EU Plans Illegal Online Gambling Crackdown, Rules on Legal Sites

Seems to me any site regulated in an EU country like Malta, Gibraltar, etc would be fine but these authorities may have to tighten their rules. They're probably gearing this more towards sites operated out of the Caribbean, South America and remember when they say gambling they mean more than poker, largely sportsbooks and online casinos.
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:16 AM   #20
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So i guess at least you told them , open markets more liquidity ,
.eu pool shared with .com etcetc?
I did, but pstars did it better

https://circabc.europa.eu/d/d/worksp...PokerStars.pdf

(if the link doesn't work scroll down and click on contributions "authorised for publication" then "individuals/others")
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:31 AM   #21
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how?? EU is trying to shutdown those gambling websites not promote them right?
Wrong. They're trying to harmonise the rules across the EU, so countries can't just make up their own rules and impose protectionist measures that interfere with free trade and competition across internal borders.

Also, there is a large amount of consumer protection in there - making sure sites behave appropriately (preventing underrage gambling, being open and honest, not ripping people off, etc)

What they're proposing is essentially an EU version of the UK's Gambling Act.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:08 AM   #22
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Re: EU Plans Illegal Online Gambling Crackdown, Rules on Legal Sites

Lol @ people asking the EU not to get greedy. The EU is a collective dictatorship, currently in the biggest economic crisis in Europe's history. Anyway to bring in money will be milked. Sod gamblers, they will say.
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:12 PM   #23
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Re: EU Plans Illegal Online Gambling Crackdown, Rules on Legal Sites

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I did, but pstars did it better

https://circabc.europa.eu/d/d/worksp...PokerStars.pdf

(if the link doesn't work scroll down and click on contributions "authorised for publication" then "individuals/others")
Well assuming that is pokerstars policy im happy to read they pursue a comon
.eu market i just dont understand if the (i hope) future .eu platform with all
EU countries and also countries in europe not in EU like russia pool
is shared with the .com i feel this would be essential for poker to get a second boom , Europe, USa and countries like brazil , etc all together in a pool would dramatically improve the liquidity + rentability
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Old 06-29-2012, 04:55 AM   #24
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Re: EU Plans Illegal Online Gambling Crackdown, Rules on Legal Sites

will any of this supposed intensive regulation have any effect on US players? I would think there is a possibility this could mean them going after what they deem "rouge" sites? or am i wrong and they dont care?
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Old 06-29-2012, 07:22 AM   #25
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Re: EU Plans Illegal Online Gambling Crackdown, Rules on Legal Sites

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doesn't it seems impossible that out of EU players would be allowed to play on these sites?
Way too early to tell. The EU initiative was started originally to promote international trade, so it would make sense if these networks were open to everyone. However, if you keep up with some of the EU its actions you realises making sense isn't always high on their list of priorities .

This could be really bad or really good depending on some factors as others have mentioned. I can only ask Pokerstars to give it their all to make the result of this process an improvement for the EU, the gambling sites AND the customers.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:03 AM   #26
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Lol @ people asking the EU not to get greedy. The EU is a collective dictatorship, currently in the biggest economic crisis in Europe's history. Anyway to bring in money will be milked. Sod gamblers, they will say.
Probably this
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:51 AM   #27
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Probably this
prob not - it's a moronic comment made by somebody who doesn't know anything about the issue.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:41 PM   #28
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Re: EU Plans Illegal Online Gambling Crackdown, Rules on Legal Sites

Obviously it's still early and a speculation is the only thing that would be fair but it seems to me that Pokerstars would be the biggest benefactor if tighter regulation were to occur in EU. If a new law would push out fringe operators then Pokerstars would stand to gain a bigger marketshare.
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:05 PM   #29
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Obviously it's still early and a speculation is the only thing that would be fair but it seems to me that Pokerstars would be the biggest benefactor if tighter regulation were to occur in EU. If a new law would push out fringe operators then Pokerstars would stand to gain a bigger marketshare.
It could be much bigger than that. If the EU supervises IGaming, the the entire EU market could experience a boom. If you would only need 1 license to operate in all EU countries, then PS could open up it's main site to people in France, Italy, Sweden, Spain, Germany, and Belgium(?), which represent some of the largest markets in the EU.

We won't know exactly what the proposal is for awhile, but I'm optimistic.

-Not sure if Belgium is segregated or not. Estonia also has regulation, but I believe they can pool with other licenses.
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:09 PM   #30
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Re: EU Plans Illegal Online Gambling Crackdown, Rules on Legal Sites

I allso hope they bring in a quote on how mch each country bring and and out from the tables, tired of all these russian nits, barely any fish coming from that countyr.
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