You mean playing with porn hub open

It could be good as long as you don't lose concentration when going deep.

I contribute to REG and have recently been named an ambassador, so I'm happy to answer any questions anyone might have about this topic.

I'll start by saying that, for me, contributing to effective charities helped to alleviate my concerns about the ethics of my profession.

When you purchase goods and services in an open market place it is already good for the economy. Vegitarians simply want you to go full vegan or feel super guilty for feasting on the fish.

I'm not opposed to charities, but many charities are frauds or give very little to the problem it's trying to solve.

Poker is not "dark" as REG suggests. Some people aren't good with money, which is all the more reason why they should gamble it away.

SageDonkey, with your posts ... have you been sort of trying to get everybody to understand and appreciate how it made you feel to be on the other side of things? That in your experience, losing at poker has felt no different from getting robbed - making poker players in your eyes no different from thieves? And so when you see poker players donating money to charity what you see are criminals donating money that feels like it belongs to you?

Like, is this thread an attempt to get justice, in your eyes? Are you sort of feeling like to right past wrongs, the money that feels like it was stolen from you feels like it should be returned?


You might be surprised to find out how many people actually do know what it feels like to lose - because it seems like almost everybody has had the experience of taking shots at a higher level, and gotten the butt kicked in the worst way? And now that Amaya's been making games harder by grabbing a larger and larger share of the pie, there's maybe also a lot of people who started to experience difficulties staying at the same tables that used to be fine?

But maybe there's losing - and then there's losses that are made worse by getting stuck, which may be a whole different thing? Like guess the more quickly people adapt by moving down stakes, or moving sites, or moving onto something other than poker, the faster the losses are mitigated?

Poker should be fun - and with proper bankroll management, and realistic expectations, it can be. Maybe a bunch of us could all work together and look over your game selection with you, to hopefully find a way so that your experience with playing poker can be a fun one, instead of one that leaves you feeling unhappy?

Do you mean Rastamouse? Now that you mention it, I see the similarities, and they do both live in London

No, it has nothing to do with my P & L in poker, which is a small net down spread across about 6 years and which in live poker where I was profitable I was an unadulterated parasite.

FWIW I have been involved in a wider variety of professions/occupations one could call partially or totally parasitical and exploitative probably than most/all in this thread.

Professional traded options market maker.
Professional bookmaker.
Professional sports trader.
Professional poker player.

Currently working on my longer post but super busy with work this weekend plus lots of meetings, so perhaps ready early next week.

There's got to be a reason that in your mind you believe you're on the side of angels for dragging the reputation of a charity through the mud - whose sole reason for existing is to save helpless children from dying of malaria!

If it's not your poker losses that are driving you to say/do the things that you are, than what is it?

It is not my intention to drag REG through the mud or to stop people from donating to charities or being charitable, I encourage both, but I do think there are some important issues not being addressed or spoken about.

I hope you will find my longer post to be balanced, logical, truthful and constructive.

Because no one else thinks they're important.

But I await your essay with bated breath, to see if it finally provides reasons to find them important.

Not sure anybody will be reading your post to be honest SageDonkey - it seems like a lot of us now have you on ignore, if we didn't already.

please continue to provide regular updates on the progress of your posts.

Tbh, the 3 posts above are not making the 3 people who posted them look good.

I opened the topic, posters such as TrustySam have asked me questions and I have politely answered them. Bobo Fett previously complained that all I do is talk about my long post in reply to REG's links, but haven't posted it yet. Maybe if he and others got off my back I would be able to get it done quicker.

I said important issues, I did not say I am important, I am not. All people are equal.

Thank you.

I suggest that once MAP, the Mother of All Posts, is finished and available for reading, it be enshrined in its own TAT, "Thread of All Threads", so SD can be proclaimed as the NVG Poster of the Year. ............. at which point he might depart, to begin his climb to the top of some other forum.

wtf, I really see no other way to deal with this Golem.

Advanced posting tip: You don't need to respond to every post. Our posts need have no effect on how long it takes you to complete your novella.

..... but SD DOES need to respond to all these posts that just do NOT grasp the brilliance and insight that awaits them when he comes down from Mt. Sinai or wherever he, as the enlightened one, is writing his Post On Poker Ethics and issues his proclamation for all to see.

Very good tip, very hard to do though.

This is my last post ITT, I am using up my more than 100 words one time, now.

Perhaps the forum moderators could look into the possibility of the post above having racist overtones and take the appropriate action as they see fit, or not.

(As in the Two Plus Two, Terms & Conditions, Section 7: User Content and Conduct, Sub Section 1.)

I am an atheist but if you Google SageDonkey Hendon Mob, look at my surname and then look up the meaning of Golem it should be pretty obvious what I mean.

Thank you

Your conduct ITT has been appalling IMO. You have been prodding me over and over in an attempt to antagonize me. The topic of charity donations is a serious one. Yes we all interject humour and banter from time to time but what you are doing ITT is immature and destructive behaviour. You should read back what you have posted, I am 100% comfortable with everything I have posted.

What makes it worse is that you are a forum moderator.

Not everything is a game, and certainly not charity that affects people's lives.

The above post was going to form a very small part of my longer post, which I will now not be doing. abarber mentions "alleviating his/her concerns about the ethics of his/her profession".

Clearly this is only one factor of a number of factors as to why he/she contributes to REG. This factor is something I referenced, using slightly different language, in my OP. It really has to be a factor, however small or large and it would not apply for instance to someone whose profession is a baker or a school teacher.

I won't be posting the long post now regarding REG's links or my other thoughts on a range of connected issues. The reason for this is that a small minority of posters ITT are displaying a form of nastiness that is unpleasant and only serves to be destructive.

I accept this is a chat forum and there will always be a wide spectrum of views, personalities and motives for people posting, but in this particular thread which is on a very serious topic, those kind of posts are not helpful and will only serve to stifle debate, ideas and viewpoints from all people.

It is a shame for me that I won't be making the post as I had a lot of ideas and positive things to say. The founders of REG are extremely intelligent, able and successful people so the chances are that any ideas I may have put forward they have already covered or considered etc, and as I've said previously I have great respect and admiration for what they have done with REG and their dedication to it and their desire to make the world a better place.

With Dan Smith too, the bottom line is that he donated 100s of thousands of dollars of his own money and raised awareness of some very important charities too, so big respect from me to him for that.

That's it from me on this thread, I will ignore all future hatred against me from the small minority of posters who think it's fun and acceptable to behave that way and I wish everyone including them much peach and love.

Kind regards,

SageDonkey

I have the right to make as much money as I can as long as it's legal. I also have the right to do whatever I want with that money. I don't talk about how much money I make or give except for when it's about poker. In that case, it's usually a curious friend or family member, plus if I make enough they can just look it up anyway.

I feel so strongly about that that at a United Way extortion (um, I mean voluntary contribution) meeting at the factory where I worked, we all had to hand in a card. As soon as that card was handed over it was checked by a manger to see what the amount of the donation was. I put zero. They were not happy with me at all.

United Way is an umbrella organization which is connected to many different charities. I don't agree with the goals or actions of some of those charities. I chose not to contribute. I choose who gets my money.

Likewise, I can choose whether to play at a charity tournament. If the rake is too high I probably won't. I don't really care which players play the tournament or what they do with the money.

It's not complicated.

Swimming against the tide is tiring.

do you also ask for longer time in meetings?

Peach and love.
/end thread.

I don't think you have to worry too much about that. I mean, you could check with R*R, but I don't think he or anyone else cares at this point how long your posts are in this thread only.

I hardly know what to say. You really think he intended this as an anti-semitic insult? Seriously??

I mean, I think it's a pretty silly assumption to start with, but then when you look at the screen name the post you're objecting to is coming from, well...

Gosh yes, just appalling. I mean, look at the four posts I made since the conversation we had yesterday:

Hmm, looking at them again, you know what?

Me too. Yes, there was a little needling in all four of those posts, and there was a little information/advice in three of them as well. The other one, well, maybe not so much. I'm fine with that.

Edit to add: Just went back and spent 5-10 minutes rereading our conversation from yesterday, and I'm certainly comfortable with all that as well.

Yup, that's true. So maybe when you create a thread in the busiest poker forum in the world criticizing the way people choose to donate thousands of dollars to charity, you should expect some push back. And then when you draw things out into some long dramatic tale rather than just addressing things succinctly and in a timely fashion, when you already have a history of doing this, people are going to get aggravated with you.

Then post it.

Or don't. It doesn't matter to me, but if it's going to sadden your day not to do so, I have no idea why you'd let a few negative remarks stop you. But that's up to you.

I'm not speaking for anyone else, but for my part, don't mistake annoyance and aggravation with your posting style and strong disagreement with many of your positions as hatred. I've never understood how people can generate hatred for other strangers on the Internet.

Same to you.

TTHRIC