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Old 07-30-2010, 07:29 PM   #1
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ESPN's describing position during 50K Players Championship



I always assumed any discussion of position in NLH was in reference to post-flop position and as such have never heard of the SB and BB referenced as late position.

ESPN has such a huge generic audience, that I think this may have confused a lot of casual players. I'm surprised this wasn't caught and changed by the their poker experts in the editing process.

Also enjoyed posting a graphic showing the Yankees losing.

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Old 07-30-2010, 07:33 PM   #2
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As long as they widen their range in "Late Position" do you mind?
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:45 PM   #3
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Yankees Suck!!!!
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:50 PM   #4
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Yeah thats def a big time screw up. Now we will hear players say but I was in late position when they are in the BB.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:56 PM   #5
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ESPN - The Worldwide Leader In Sports
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:58 PM   #6
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Re: ESPN's describing position during 50K Players Championship

The fact that the BTN is D"ealer button" and not BTN tilted me while watching that.
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:05 PM   #7
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I always assumed any discussion of position in NLH was in reference to post-flop position .
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:07 PM   #8
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The fact that the BTN is D"ealer button" and not BTN tilted me while watching that.
That and the cutoff being labeled CUT instead of CO tilted me.
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:08 PM   #9
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Re: ESPN's describing position during 50K Players Championship

I've been playing poker 14 years now and don't recall ever hearing the word hijack used in poker. Is that common a term? Raised from the Hijack?
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:12 PM   #10
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I've been playing poker 14 years now and don't recall ever hearing the word hijack used in poker. Is that common a term? Raised from the Hijack?
yeah it is.
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:13 PM   #11
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I've been playing poker 14 years now and don't recall ever hearing the word hijack used in poker. Is that common a term? Raised from the Hijack?
Yes.
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:19 PM   #12
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Re: ESPN's describing position during 50K Players Championship

i remember phil ivey on PAD claimed he didnt know what the hijack was, i never use the term
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:21 PM   #13
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You are tellling me you have been in the SB or BB and referred to yourself as being in late position?
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:22 PM   #14
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yeah it is.
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:24 PM   #15
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well, lorn did say that that refered to PREflop action.
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:32 PM   #16
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Re: ESPN's describing position during 50K Players Championship

I don't think I've ever referred to the CO as being middle position.

LOOKS LIKE THE ESPN COULD'VE HIRED THE POKER POLICE.
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:36 PM   #17
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well, lorn did say that that refered to PREflop action.
That LON did. I'm just saying, in general, the standard accepted description of 'late position' refers to post-flop play.

When creating a graphic that is designed to educate the audience on position, you would think they would use the commonly accepted defintion of late position which is the BTN, CO and hi-jack post-flop, not confuse the audience by defining PRE-flop position which is basically never done. Just found it very unusual.
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:43 PM   #18
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LOOKS LIKE THE ESPN COULD'VE HIRED THE POKER POLICE.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:13 PM   #19
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Yeah thats def a big time screw up. Now we will hear players say but I was in late position when they are in the BB.
Just like, after the flop, the first person to act bets, and the next player says that he wants to reraise. Some players and commentators have been repeating this mumbo jumbo without thinking for a while.
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I don't think I've ever referred to the CO as being middle position.

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Old 07-30-2010, 09:17 PM   #21
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i remember phil ivey on PAD claimed he didnt know what the hijack was, i never use the term
But you would if Ivey said that he recognized the term. Right?
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:19 PM   #22
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I don't think I've ever referred to the CO as being middle position.

LOOKS LIKE THE ESPN COULD'VE HIRED THE POKER POLICE.
"The ESPN" probably decided that your consulting fee wasn't within their budget.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:21 PM   #23
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In my eyes the sb and bb aren't early/mid/late position. They are simply sb/bb when referring to them, at all times.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:27 PM   #24
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:30 PM   #25
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Just like, after the flop, the first person to act bets, and the next player says that he wants to reraise. Some players and commentators have been repeating this mumbo jumbo without thinking for a while.
one of my friends was really adamant about something like this. he was arguing that his flop bet was a raise and i was just dumbfounded.
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