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Erick Lindgren Owes Over 0,000 for Fantasy League, Won't Pay Erick Lindgren Owes Over 0,000 for Fantasy League, Won't Pay

06-30-2014 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity8
Perhaps a reason why.
Because without some form of legal judgement, that's not how debts work. It's how some people treat debts (both from debtor and the indebted pov), sure. But it's not in any way the structure of the law or the default structure of debt relationships. It's also a super naive way of thinking about the world, and debt, as well as nonsensical as well as counter productive if the debtor actually would like to maximize their probability of repayment, both in the universes of general debts and gambling specific debts.
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06-30-2014 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Two SHAE

I played with him in the WSOP 25k last year and he was an absolute pleasure to play with. Extremely respectful and friendly.

Glad to hear he is a friendly deadbeat scammer...makes a world of difference.
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06-30-2014 , 01:44 PM
Has anyone seen Erick either:
- betting sports?
- betting in the pit?

since his 'pledge' to turn his life around?
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06-30-2014 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Monorail
Has anyone seen Erick either:
- betting sports?
- betting in the pit?

since his 'pledge' to turn his life around?
hundreds of thousands did on Parts Unknown
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06-30-2014 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysDrawingDead
Pushovers like you are why people don't pay their debts.
The only push overs are the suckers that lent/bet money with Lindgren and didn't get paid back.
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06-30-2014 , 02:21 PM
It's really ironic to me that Jonathan Aguiar of all people ends up being the person to defend Lindgren here. This dude is like the king of the 2+2 witch hunt. He's called out numerous people in the past for stupid **** and now he's openly defending endorsing someone with hundreds of thousands in debt. You've really come a long way John. At least you understand how to make money now.
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06-30-2014 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dankness3
It's really ironic to me that Jonathan Aguiar of all people ends up being the person to defend Lindgren here. This dude is like the king of the 2+2 witch hunt. He's called out numerous people in the past for stupid **** and now he's openly defending endorsing someone with hundreds of thousands in debt. You've really come a long way John. At least you understand how to make money now.
+1

the worm has turned
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06-30-2014 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dankness3
It's really ironic to me that Jonathan Aguiar of all people ends up being the person to defend Lindgren here. This dude is like the king of the 2+2 witch hunt. He's called out numerous people in the past for stupid **** and now he's openly defending endorsing someone with hundreds of thousands in debt. You've really come a long way John. At least you understand how to make money now.
Wow, source? (Sorry, only looked as his Twitter... curious to know what exactly he said.) You're right, Aguiar strikes me as the last guy who would come to EDog's defense.

Edit: oh never mind, I see Aguiar is also playing for DraftKings.
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06-30-2014 , 03:05 PM
Epic line at the cage if he wins
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06-30-2014 , 03:39 PM
LOL at DraftKings and Aguiar using some weak ass "He's trying to reform! How long do we punish him?" argument.

It'd be like an alcoholic who injured multiple people (but not permanently!) during multiple DUIs getting a sponsorship with some alcohol company just because he was going to be on TV. It sounds ridiculous because no reputable company would do this.

OR, OR...it'd be like female face puncher Chris Brown getting a spokesperson deal with some makeup company with the justification being that Rihanna's face healed. Yes, I went max pop culture there.

EDIT: Also, adding another LOL at Aguiar trying to tie this into the One Drop charity. How in the hell are they helping the charity by putting the DK logo out there?

Last edited by fakelogic; 06-30-2014 at 03:43 PM. Reason: clarity
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06-30-2014 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Plastic
i have no involvement with DraftKings.

edit: yes, i was the co-founder of DraftDay and am not involved in that or any DFS business now.
Ahh.. my apologies for bringing your name into this thread. All my comments on Aguiar still stand.
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06-30-2014 , 03:48 PM
So he isn't a Lannister big deal unless he owes you money or asks you for money I don't see how its anyones business really
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06-30-2014 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by uppie_
So he isn't a Lannister big deal unless he owes you money or asks you for money I don't see how its anyones business really
Yes, since most things in the world don't affect us directly, let us not speak about any wrongs out there that might affect us indirectly.

And if you don't know the indirect effects of a consumer-facing company making boneheaded decisions, well then, I can't help you.
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06-30-2014 , 04:03 PM
Just an absolute horrible decision by Draft Kings and I will never use them either. You could have legit lined up all 41 players and he'd be the first u say 'He def can't represent us' and that's who they stick the pouch on. Absolutely ******ed
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06-30-2014 , 04:06 PM
Erick would have to pay taxes on his satty win right? So by playin the one drop he already owes 300-400k to the tax man, correct?
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06-30-2014 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BrendanV
Erick would have to pay taxes on his satty win right? So by playin the one drop he already owes 300-400k to the tax man, correct?
if he doesn't cash in the one drop, he can use that loss to offset his profit in the satty, right?
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06-30-2014 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbertoe
if he doesn't cash in the one drop, he can use that loss to offset his profit in the satty, right?
Right.. So if he min cashes in the one droop for 1.32m, he'd have to pay taxes on both the min cash, aswell the satty?
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06-30-2014 , 05:02 PM
What's the difference between TJ Cloutier and Erick Lindgren?

To my knowledge everybody despises TJ. Why should Erick be treated any differently?
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06-30-2014 , 05:17 PM
think he doesnt have to pay taxes on satty win but not 100% sure
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06-30-2014 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by EYESCREW
What's the difference between TJ Cloutier and Erick Lindgren?
The difference is TJ is actually good at poker.
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06-30-2014 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
The difference is TJ is actually good at poker.
Erick Lindgren raised to 100,000 from the hijack seat, and Jean-Robert Bellande called out of the big blind to see the flop come down {Q-Hearts}{5-Hearts}{4-Clubs}. Both players checked.

The turn was the {J-Diamonds}, and both players checked again. Then, the {2-Diamonds} completed the board on the river. Bellande checked, Lindgren bet 125,000, and Bellande called.

"Nine high," said Lindgren.

Bellande tabled the {6-Diamonds}{5-Clubs} for a pair of fives, and said, "Good effort."
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06-30-2014 , 09:20 PM
haralabos says he sold his debt from lindgren for pennies on the dollar:

http://www.pokernews.com/video/wsop-...ld-is-8952.htm
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06-30-2014 , 09:25 PM
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I want to personally apologize for any negativity that has arisen as a result of the decision to have Erick wear a patch for the one drop at the WSOP and also to anyone who might have been personally offended by it. As the one person at DK who could have reasonably expected the reaction some have had I should have taken more time to update myself on the situation as it’s currently stands.

The one drop is an amazing charity event that raises millions for a great cause and gets wide exposure. To my knowledge he had been public about making amends and changes to his life. Given those things and his other high profile sponsor I concluded that he seemed to be getting an opportunity for a second chance. Given all of this I believed there would still be some negativity but the end result would be positive given that Erick could get significant TV time and exposure to 100’s of thousands of poker fans watching this event casually. I mention this only to make it clear that this wasn’t a thoughtless decision, even if you believe it was the wrong one.

I promise to be much more careful in the future with where you see DK within the poker community. If anyone would like to discuss this with me further please feel free to email me if you have it or send me a PM here on RotoGrinders and I’ll address your message ASAP.

Sincerely,
Jonathan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consequentialism

Some light reading if you want to know the relative morality of Draft Kings.
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07-01-2014 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mjcace
Saw DraftKings put a patch on edog. Wp on never getting my business.
What a horrible business decision.
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07-01-2014 , 04:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR-2qeTN6QU

Direct link to Bob's interview from today about the One Drop and more important Lindgren wearing DraftKings and his debt to Bob.
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