Apparently not to Haralabos...but since WHEN?????!!!!!!!!!! Did I miss that tidbit or is this MASSIVE debt settlement a new revelation since the win?...I thought E Dog owed Haralabos upwards towards $1 million in unpaid debts...

Haralabos Voulgaris @haralabob · 5h
No longer owes me anything. RT @coachnoodles: If E-Dog wins this 25k then does deep in the One Drop will @haralabob get paid?

Haralabos Voulgaris @haralabob · 5h
He owes me 0 RT @mattkipper32: @haralabob thoughts on @EdogPoker winning a one drop seat? How much he still owe you?

Bob doesn't exactly say he was paid by Eric tho. Could have come to a different arrangement or sold the debt.

IDK if calling out Erik would be best thing. He's owes a ****load of people money so it would prob be best to let him play and if he binks he can finally up. Just saying, If I was owed a lot I'd be kind of pissed Erik loses a chance to make some money cause some ******* was razzing him.

Haralabos Voulgaris ‏@haralabob · 5h
@ruperte sold the debt

Agree in some instances...only thing is, Haralabos already publicized the debt himself --- I think it was in a podcast he did...and he talks about it here too on his blog...

http://aloneinthecorner.com/post/332...lains-in-poker

I wonder who backed Lindgren for the 1 drop? From bk to playing in a milly tournament, must be nice.

He won $25k satellite. Who knows if he had 100% of himself in that tho.

Micon called him out on fantasy football debt on pokernews podcast episode 228: http://www.pokernews.com/podcast/

Lammers are different every year. You can't use them next year so with 1mm in lammers you better spend them.

I am going to take an unpopular opinion here but I don't think this is true. Obviously he should pay his debts, but just because he is at a live table doesn't mean he is gambling people's money away. He is probably backed etc.

I played with him in the WSOP 25k last year and he was an absolute pleasure to play with. Extremely respectful and friendly, despite getting shown the deck all day. He eventually busted getting KK to AA and bowed out graciously. I don't think there is any reason to disrupt this peaceful state of play by bringing up debts that are really none of your business. Just go about your own business and let him go about his.

You're right, that is an unpopular stance and without being too rude a dumb one. Maybe u don't say anything and he scams another person at your table because he's so ' nice and easy going'. Scammers seem nice b/c it's hard to scam someone if you're a douche as noone wants to give $ to those ppl #smh

What is the benefit of calling him out? Is it going to make him act differently? If you want to tell/warn people not to deal with him financially, you don't have to be a douche at the table while he is there. You can do that **** in other ways or at the very least (if you must...) do it gracefully. If he personally owes you money, that is something you can take up with him privately.

When we played someone did call him out. The person who called him out ended up completely losing his head and getting a penalty.

Just gonna have to disagree on this one which is fine. Obv dealing with someone in private who says he isn't paying isn't going to do the trick. I know Haralabob sold his debt and I hope he did it w/Russian mob. Pieces of **** like Erick deserve to be shunned at the table. Only in poker is it ok.

This is the part that bothers me the most. If someone who gambles for a living asks to borrow " physical money" then the lender has to assume that it might be awhile ( quite possibly a really loooong while) before he is paid back. Why else would the gambler ask to borrow if he already had enough money?

It's quite the opposite when you make a wager or bet. The natural assumption is that people have enough (physical money) to cover their bets when they make them, or else why would they make the bets in the first place? ( This is why it appears that his bets are basically freerolls, collect when you win, don't pay when you lose).

That's why I believe that the people he made bets with and didn't pay should be the first ones he makes whole. Most of these people had a specific time period in mind (immediately, for most of them I would guess) on when they would be paid. Whereas, the " physical money " lenders could not know exactly when they would be paid.

This is real good. Be sure to link EL your post.

the utility of calling him out at the table in front of his peers over and over again is to shame him in to paying. just pure shame.

if he thinks no1 has forgotten and more ppl are being informed what a scumbag he is then imo the chances of him paying back the "virtual money" (lmao at that being a different kind of debt) he owes go up.

Pushovers like you are why people don't pay their debts.

Saw DraftKings put a patch on edog. Wp on never getting my business.

I don't see how the guy goes to gambling rehab and his life plan after rehab is to gamble more. He probably blew through at least $10,000,000 in FTP $ gambling on poker and sports, then borrowed more and is deep in debt.

The problem for people hoping to collect $ from him is that it's almost certainly not legally collectable and Lindgren's reputation is already ruined so really what's the incentive for him to pay his creditors?

+1

A DraftKings Rep made a statement over at rotogrinders:

Oh, yeah, you are wrong about that. Any other questions?

The only incentive is to STAY IN THE GAME, or stay in the lifestyle of having action at all times. The "little people" whom he owes money to are just roadblocks in his way. If you don't understand what drives 95 percent of all of poker, then you need to readjust your thinking.

It is not as if these people love to go skiing, and borrow money to take trips to Vail, Colorado. If you try to put a 9-5er's reasoning into the poker lifestyle of course you will never be able to square the circle.

However, you did actually have a correct thought when you stated that the debt is not collectible, and his reputation is already ruined, so.....

People need to realize that most everyone on earth is a potential stiff, if the right circumstances arise. Remember when they gave 500K housing loans to janitors so they could buy houses with no money down? Well, if the janitor, or person who didn't even have a job, didn't pay, what were the consequences? Not jail time. Just bad credit. Now imagine if casinos gave 500K loans/free shots to people, and if you lost and didn't pay it back you didn't go to jail. The stiff percentage would be astronomical.

The poker world is not like any other world. Gambling is different than normal society.

Perhaps a reason why.

+1. DraftKings sucks anyway. Fanduel >>>>>>>DraftKings