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Erick Lindgren Owes Over 0,000 for Fantasy League, Won't Pay Erick Lindgren Owes Over 0,000 for Fantasy League, Won't Pay

03-08-2012 , 08:37 PM
[QUOTE=callthosebets;31957204]I don't think it's Matusow whatsoever. DN said he's been owed this money forever and didn't Matusow win like 500K off of Daniel on HSP? I would guess he would pay him back with that if this was the case

Not necessarily. He likely got staked for that appearance and it's common knowledge and he says it himself, that he's broke. If he's been staked then he has a responsibility to his backer(s). And then what's left he has to live on! Plus the Ted Forrest bet he still owes for that he's paying monthly. If at all. It's simply got to be. Question is, if it is, why would DN loan 500k to a losing player? He says 'now'. Which suggests he's been owed since this player was a winning player. Which Matusow was, before he was left behind by the new age. Where Negreanu worked on his game, keeping up with the times MM was left behind. Sad story for DN and MM if this is the case. Fair play to DN for what looks like a write off.
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03-08-2012 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyClue
I think Brad Booth fits the profile quite well....
Negative - Brad hasn't played a $10k event in quite a while and was not in SJ for the Bay 101.
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03-08-2012 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by idareyou
Was I the only person who triple checked this picture looking for Chainsaw.
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03-08-2012 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Negreanu
No, I won't see this money cause this guy can't win anymore. If he ever got lucky and had money again I'd expect to get "some" of it. I not see it ever happening though.

I don't see a need to tell people that will never come across him about the fact that he's broke. I think that's just plain mean. I have told any and everyone who may do business with him to be careful. Some aspects of people's personal lives are not NVG worthy, and who owes money isn't something I think everyone needs to know.

It's very, very, easy to "ask around" and when asked, I certainly don't hide anything.
I think you have said more than you need to ITT anyway, and as said before, you seem to be a good friend whilst still caring for the integrity of the game, but also not scared to give your friends some grief/advice as needed.

So any hate on you is pretty dumb so far imo.
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03-08-2012 , 09:10 PM
This is how a "new school" pro adjusts; great vid by Galfond

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7L0X...layer_embedded
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03-08-2012 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NDfan
Lock Poker just signed Eric Lindgren.
Maybe.

But Erick (with a "k") Lindgren is still trying to figure things out while being unsigned.
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03-08-2012 , 09:47 PM
old school stars itt. more please! that is all.
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03-08-2012 , 10:07 PM
The 'old school' gambling defense reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcr6opqAFVU
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03-08-2012 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by coltranedog
One of the main board members at FTP told me that they could never do this because it would be highly illegal and they didn't have the jurisdiction to do so or get involved. I understand how they wouldn't want to break any more laws seeing as how they were busy laundering money and buying banks to mask their financial transactions.
You can't make this stuff up.
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03-08-2012 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyClue
I think Brad Booth fits the profile quite well....
My buddy plays 2/5 @ Wynn and says Brad Booth has been playing that game a bunch...but obviously a very remote chance that this is the person in question
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03-08-2012 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCiscoKid
Was I the only person who triple checked this picture looking for Chainsaw.
I don't think you looked close enough.

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03-08-2012 , 11:17 PM
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03-08-2012 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jackhigh
o....m....f....g.....

I can't breath.....
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03-08-2012 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
Nah, old school is apparently that everyone just owes everyone money and nobody talks about it so they can all portray themselves as balla.
Great post. If I was part of the anti online poker lobby I would take one of the promo photos of full tilts pros and write a brief bio of each below each player face. I am sure the masses would think online poker is a great idea after seeing these schmucks
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03-08-2012 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Negreanu
No, I won't see this money cause this guy can't win anymore. If he ever got lucky and had money again I'd expect to get "some" of it. I not see it ever happening though.

I don't see a need to tell people that will never come across him about the fact that he's broke. I think that's just plain mean. I have told any and everyone who may do business with him to be careful. Some aspects of people's personal lives are not NVG worthy, and who owes money isn't something I think everyone needs to know.

It's very, very, easy to "ask around" and when asked, I certainly don't hide anything.
My guess for the person who owes Daniel 500k would be Layne Flack. He played at Bay 101 and he hasn't won anything since 2008. His Hendon Mob tournament winnings total from 2009-present is $96k. He also doesn't have a cash on record for 2010, and he owes FTP a lot of money. Definitely fits the profile of someone who can't win anymore.

Whether it's Flack who owes Daniel money or not, I hope he starts winning again. Was a cool player to watch in the early-mid 2000s.
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03-09-2012 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by josh arieh
I want to put in a few things that are facts, unlike most things in this thread

-I am not the person that owes DN $500k. I don't owe a single person in the world, and I intend to keep it that way.

-I will probably get flamed for saying this, but Erick is one of the people in the "old school" poker world that I 100% trust. Is he wrong for some of his settling up routines? YES! He will tell u that himself.

Erick is a great friend and has been there for me in some dark times in my life. Erick will get past this stumbling block of his life and I believe that every one that has $ coming will get theirs. Will it be when he promised it? NO! And that's an avenue that he really needs to get right in his life!

There is no one I am rooting for more than him!

That's wonderful you trust him 100% - I'm sure every person Erick still owes trusted him 100% as well.

Tell you what, if you trust him that much, lend him a couple of million to help him out. I mean, you know he'll pay you back - HE'S 100% TRUSTWORTHY, right Josh??

See, just writing that you trust him 100% AFTER reading over 1000 posts of all the bull**** he's done is laughable!!!
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03-09-2012 , 12:44 AM
I couldn't agree more how this is such fuel for the anti poker right wing. I tried to out a scumbag once on another forum and was completly repulsed by the vulgar responses, I just never bothered to return.
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03-09-2012 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by drewm
I couldn't agree more how this is such fuel for the anti poker right wing. I tried to out a scumbag once on another forum and was completly repulsed by the vulgar responses, I just never bothered to return.
I agree 100%
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03-09-2012 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CheckDaQuads
o....m....f....g.....

I can't breath.....
wow very nice shop I just cant get over it either
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03-09-2012 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jackhigh
Change T-shirt to "i was owed millions by some scumbag ... and all i got was this lousy t-shirt"?
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03-09-2012 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CheckDaQuads
o....m....f....g.....

I can't breath.....
Bob´s arms looks like coming from a dead person
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03-09-2012 , 03:02 AM
great shop. one of the best ive seen so far
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03-09-2012 , 09:18 AM
Here is my take, People make mistakes it happens everyday all of us have done it. Most of us have also been in situations that we thought we could control and they quickly spiraled out of control. I really don't think this was intentional on Erick's part at all. I am sure he has the intentions to pay back everybody he owes but is in such a hole he doesn't know how. After the collapse of FTP his guaranteed income was shut off thus putting him deeper and deeper into debt. From everything that I have read on here, he does pay it just takes a long time. Now that isn't how I would do things, if I owe money I pay it when I say I will but sometimes **** happens and it does take a little bit longer. In my opinion Lindgren is still one of the good guys, he just has really bad management skills and that is what he needs to work on. He also needs to quit the sports betting and stick with poker because the guy has skill. I for one like many others am pulling for him and hope he turns this all around and honestly I think he will but it is going to take some time.
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03-09-2012 , 10:31 AM
Concerning the gent who owes Daniel 500K... he said something to the affect of, he knows he wont get his money back since this player cant win anymore.
What do you guys make of "cant win anymore"? Can winnings players suddenly lose their ability? Does the game pass them by? Is it a deeper issue of mental health or drug abuse?
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