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03-06-2012 , 01:36 AM
I work in the Las Vegas IRS office building downtown at city center .....


I'm gonna ask someone in the office a general scenario involving the deets here and see what they say time frames on IRS action are...... (without names)


hard to not think that jail is in EL's future...... FTP + IRS = WHITE COLLAR CRIME
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03-06-2012 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by krmont22
Look up psychopath. Some murderers are psychopaths, but not all psychopaths are murderers. Psychopaths are like 1% of the population, and some experts think 1 in 40 males are psychopaths.

Yea, I'm not necessarily saying that one implies the other - but if he did kill a bookie to dodge a debt it'd make me question whether he has any conscience at all.

I've known a degen from childhood and saw how he became what he is. He started off with a sense of integrity, but he crossed certain lines so many times in those moments of desperation that I think he must have become numb to the prospect of walking on debts. I definitely don't trust him, but I don't think he's malicious and I do get the impression that he has genuine empathy. Although to be fair, he was a lot younger than eric when it all went down and he's at least trying to change his life.
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03-06-2012 , 01:41 AM
So can someone clarify what happens once the youve got a tax lein on yourself from the IRS?

I assume the IRS investigated him, determined he owed money, but is the lein a court order that says yeah lindgren owes xx. Does lindgren have any recourse to reduce the lein once the IRS determines it? What happens if lindgren can't pay it and his networth is under the lein? Does he go to jail?
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03-06-2012 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
Spoke with dn at length about this topic on the flight to bay 101. He said he will address this case as well as the whole topic of money owed between poker players in his next video blog.
Whatever DN posts, it can be summarized by simply posting this.

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03-06-2012 , 01:49 AM
So is Eric the worst sports bettor of all time? To have 3 mil in tax liability means he had to have made 10 mil or a really bad accountant. Perhaps he used the same accountants as FT?

If you're even close to a break even sports bettor and losing due to a +/- 10% vig he'd have had to have placed 100 million in sports bets. Action junkie indeed Mr. Lindgren.
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03-06-2012 , 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by krmont22
Look up psychopath. Some murderers are psychopaths, but not all psychopaths are murderers. Psychopaths are like 1% of the population, and some experts think 1 in 40 males are psychopaths.
He could be but just doesn't seem like it. Usually it takes a long time to figure out someone is - if DN is a close friend he'd probably know.

There are lots of non-psychopaths who are capable of screwing people over and be perfectly fine with not paying debt. The regular will be more avoiding, apologetic and insist they'll pay (while they secretly hope you forget and that you won't ask again, rinse repeat) while as far as the P is concerned, he doesn't owe you money, in his head you gave it to him or he deserved it more than you, or thinks you were stupid to borrow it therefore deserve to not get it back and genuinely doesn't care - or turn it around saying you're bad for pressuring them about it, make up a story about how someone owes them a **** ton but hasn't paid yet, say "If you were in my spot, I would be more patient and supportive of you as my friend..it's only money" etc.

He could be a very smart P (started to prefer socio actually, even psychopath is correct, since most people confuse it with psychosis, serial killers with delusions and sadists) - but I don't see it very likely with the limited info we have
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03-06-2012 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by intheireye!
So will I have to have a credit check run on me every time I walk into a B&M....

Welcome to reality, walk outside that poker/gamer den a few times a month and at least look at girls asses or play some bball or something.

Lol at 18 yr olds on NVG and how removed from reality they are.
you just made me feel good about myself for playing bball today and looking at some girls asses at the gym.
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03-06-2012 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by EYESCREW
So is Eric the worst sports bettor of all time? To have 3 mil in tax liability means he had to have made 10 mil or a really bad accountant. Perhaps he used the same accountants as FT?

If you're even close to a break even sports bettor and losing due to a +/- 10% vig he'd have had to have placed 100 million in sports bets. Action junkie indeed Mr. Lindgren.
I wonder what portion of it is fines and such though. Not a direct comparison, but most of the bankruptcy proceedings I've observed have creditors trying to get ridiculous sums which are like 75% fees/penalties and not so much principal.
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03-06-2012 , 02:15 AM
Erick should be in a rehab facilty!! everyone around him knew he was a sic sic degen!! Didn't Negreanu pay for his buddy Layne flack's rehab stay yrs ago ..
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03-06-2012 , 02:40 AM
doublejoker knows dn already posted the same crap he just said, he just wanted to namedrop that he aproached dn on the plane like a creeper and got him to talk imo
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03-06-2012 , 02:50 AM
DN flies coach?
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03-06-2012 , 03:21 AM
how does anyone read NVG... has this been posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP0ybaMCw7E
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03-06-2012 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Lana_Lang
doublejoker knows dn already posted the same crap he just said, he just wanted to namedrop that he aproached dn on the plane like a creeper and got him to talk imo
I'm not a creeper there were only a few of us on the plane. Sorry I posted if he already had.
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03-06-2012 , 03:25 AM
Erick must be betting somewhere being that college basketball is really heating up!!! Hopefully he catches a sic heater!!! go zags go
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03-06-2012 , 03:31 AM
I just assumed Daniel approached Allen.
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03-06-2012 , 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
I'm not a creeper there were only a few of us on the plane. Sorry I posted if he already had.

Allen, why even respond to this stupid post?? We know you are not a creeper.

By the way, what the heck is a creeper???
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03-06-2012 , 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
I'm not a creeper there were only a few of us on the plane. Sorry I posted if he already had.
I know a lot of creepers and that is exactly how they would have replied.
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03-06-2012 , 03:56 AM
If EL can get over the IRS debacle, he will be fine, all his rich buddys will stake him silly and he'll be hungry and win it all back and them some

2 bracelets for Erick in 2012 I reckon
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03-06-2012 , 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by handbag86
Sorry this is a little off topic and mods feel free to delete my reply if you deem so.. but..

How incredibly stupid do people have to be to have an "endless" stream of money coming in every month and still manage to rack up huge debts to people. Like someone suggested, all Edouche would have to do is lay low for 6 months. Grind 10-20 and pay off using his wedge from FTP.

I'm not really only talking about Edouche but also CF et all. How ****ing stupid do you have to be to have this amazing company and image, which is printing money quicker than you can count it, yet manage to **** it up and end up busto. Wow it's so ****ing depressing I can't even comprehend. I guess a lot of the FTP guys started to feel a little invincible when they were receiving money every month for nothing.. they started to believe all the BS they were selling people, that they really were "poker pros". There were so many people on FTPs roster that wouldn't stand a chance of beating the modern games without a huge BR behind them and FTP money and endorsements. The WWE thing someone mentioned earlier is 100% spot on IMO.

Back to Edouche... how can you be in such a fantastic position in life and end up owing the ****ing IRS money and be busto... jesus man. So irresponsible.
how can a crackhead sell their baby to get more crack.. bec they're an addict. it's a disease
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03-06-2012 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by krmont22
Look up psychopath. Some murderers are psychopaths, but not all psychopaths are murderers. Psychopaths are like 1% of the population, and some experts think 1 in 40 males are psychopaths.
Sounds like you have a bright future in armchair psychoanalysis.

It's pretty sad how many of you come into this thread to pile on, as if you have personal stakes in Eric's issues; but calling him a psychopath is beyond the pale.
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03-06-2012 , 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
I'm not a creeper there were only a few of us on the plane. Sorry I posted if he already had.
i was just needling you by jealousy, no need to apologize for that.
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03-06-2012 , 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by orophin
I wonder what portion of it is fines and such though. Not a direct comparison, but most of the bankruptcy proceedings I've observed have creditors trying to get ridiculous sums which are like 75% fees/penalties and not so much principal.

That's a really good point. His original unpaid tax liability could easily be half the $3 million figure represented itt. Late fees, penalties, fines etc. all start adding up fairly quickly.
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03-06-2012 , 04:32 AM
From screen grab earlier in this thread, Tax debts in USA are a matter of public record right? Can someone find out Ivey's, CF's, HL's, the other FTP 'pros'? my guess is that these guys getting zillions from an illegal operation could not declare this income. the IRS is going to crucify these guys. karma is catching up slowly but surely
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03-06-2012 , 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Txyankee
He had a couple of hundred grand in the bank in case of emergency. The emergency came and the IRS took his money. He's still fighting them. He's racked up an enormous bill with the CPA and attorney, and says he doesn't care. Ar this point he would rather give all the money to them then let the IRS keep it. What really sucks now is he's making good six figures and his credit rating is as low as it gets. He can't finance anything. But he did move to a pretty cool area of Dallas and is having good luck being single again. I guess that's why he's so happy. Get rid of the methhead wife, have the IRS take everything, but hook up with lots of hot chicks.
Good for him.......I hope he wins.
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03-06-2012 , 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by apefish
I just assumed Daniel approached Allen.
This is the only thing that ever entered my thought process. I figured Daniel told Allen to come post here to help with DN's credibility considering everyone knows The Chainsaw is a Boss.
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