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Originally Posted by McG_STL
So is the IRS part of the newer generation or older generation?
Definitely older LOL! Got a really funny Freddie Deeb story about that. He owed IRS some money, met with them, and said, "Listen guys, I'm broke right now but if you want me to pay there is a great $1000-$2000 game at the Bellagio you can stake me in."
LOL. A lot of you guys don't know some epic degen stories from the "old days" that are both a bit pathetic, but often very amusing!
For the record, I'm not defending Erick here, and I won't be in my vlog either. I'm going to paint some pictures of a reality most of you aren't privy too. Poker world has always been a weird place.
I mea,n I have had figures with people that look like:
$25k personal
$65k gambling
Meaning, a guy owes me $25k for a personal loan, and then also owes me $65k for a golf figure, or whatever. The $25k I'd expect to get when it was owed, where the gambling figure would be taken care of when the guy was flush with cash and could afford parting with it.
I'm not even going to try and convince, or persuade anyone that this is "logical" or makes sense at all, but it's extremely common in the gambling world.
Edog wears a shirt that says "E-Duster" on it, meaning exactly what you might think! While Isildur has degen like qualities playing online, Edog is obviously super degen when it comes to gambling as a whole.
Anyway, this next vlog won't cover it, but the one after that will extensively.
I'll add, I didn't say anything about Howard and FTP until about 10 months in. I also know of PLENTY of people who owe money, and I never put them on blast and I won't.
I'm only responding here because someone who was owed $2800 decided to post it on 2+2. That's not something you would have ever seen in the "old world," unless Erick had specifically said he wasn't going to pay it. What I saw was Edog being neglegent about it, claiming he sent a check and didn't, but not that he wasn't going to pay it.
New school approach is different, and people are definitely held more accountable for their actions.
Much like with Chino, I don't often get involved in people's personal dealing with other players. These are "small time" issues in the poker world IMO and only effect the people who trusted someone and got screwed. I.E. If Chino borrowed money from John, and hasn't paid it back yet, that's between Chino and John.
I think it's fine for John to warn others not to loan Chino any money, but If I were to get involved in every suspect financial transaction between two people in our industry, I wouldn't have any time to sleep. And I love sleep.