coke costs alot more than steak

lol

This. DN can't claim to be this voice of honesty who is so frank and hard hitting with his realistic points of view on the scummy things that occur in the community but then go quiet because it's his 'boy'.

Double standards make you lose credibility.

It would be a shame if DN did not speak out on Lindgren as some may consider by not doing so he has compromised his integrity. This aside it does not make his opinion concerning the scummy actions of HL et al wrong.

I hope he does speak out and it would also be good to see him apologise for advocating violence.

Now back to the topic of this thread, Lindgren ------

I'm going to wait for DN's weekly vblog, maybe he speaks on the matter in it...

i didn't read every post in this thread so forgive me if this has already been asked and answered.
i read a couple of times that erick lindgren was highly involved in backing up players and stuff, is this true? doesn't phil collins talk about that in his recent pokernews interview, that he was backed by erick lindgren? so if this is true, couldn't it be possible that erick lindgren does actually have a lot of money, but a big share of it just isn't "available" bc he backed other players big and so he sometimes gets into trouble paying back his own debt?
doesn't explain not paying 2k back obv, but i was just wondering about it....

If DN is good friends with Eric and DID speak out against him I'd lose a lot of respect for DN. IDK what kind of friendships you guys have but if this is the type of thing you'd sell your friend out for then I doubt you have any real best friends

It is 2.8k not 2k, obviously hudge difference.

Most important skill set for poker is that of a grifter. Poker is clearly just random gambling. The only way you sustain is via stealing.

Playing poker has always been a horrible way to make money.

Don't feed the troll plz.

FYP

Hi Erick!

Erick needs to start limping in multiway pots with aces... more often.

This guy is about 95% on the ball. I know poker players are easily offended when lumped into a general category of dead beats and cheats... but it is what it is. Poker players, especially a 'professional' one add absolutely nothing of value to society. If poker ceased to exist tomorrow for whatever reason, society would lose absolutely nothing of value. We are all leeches sucking each other dry. When your job or activity has the single and solitary purpose of making money and nothing else, no one can act the least bit surprised when malfeasance occurs.

What does a fast food server add to society?
What does a retail assistant add to society?
What does a debt collector for a bank add to society?

Just 3 jobs off the top of my head. I think you will find there are more people working in jobs that give nothing to society than people in jobs that do.

I feel the same way about 90% of Wall Street

Fast food... well, I like to stop at a certain fast food establishment at lunch time and order a grilled chicken salad, and I am appreciative there is someone to take my order as well as the dozens of other trying to get their lunch in a speedy manner.
Im not sure what a retail assistant is per se.
And a debt collector, while on the surface may appear to be a waste of society's resources, really isnt at all. If banks did not enforce the rules they placed on loans, then no one would every pay them back and the free market system we rely on (right or wrong) at the moment would slowly erode in inefficiency.

And if you take my last point about debts not being paid to the bank and try to spin it concerning Eric here... thats just my point.
If everyone stopped paying their debt in the poker world, and this somehow led to the collapse of poker as we know it, who would really care? Would who suffer?

Is this a joke? What do you think they do? They provide a service to the public. Is this some kind of trick question or something? What am I missing? Please please tell me you don't really think they don't add anything to society.

+1

Poker players keep the pokersites open.
Poker players keep people employed by these sites in a job.

I'm keeping someone in a job by playing poker. Just realised that. I feel good now.

As a former professional poker player, I have no real issue with the thought that poker players as a profession don't offer much to society. You could argue that they help offer entertainment, but in most cases the games would run without them.

But that doesn't mean you don't offer anything to society as a human being. Lots of poker players offer things to society through charitable contributions and time donations. They are mothers, fathers, tax payers, home owners, etc. All things that in one way or another contribute just fine.

Not to mention the obvious fact that there are lots of ****ty human beings out there in every realm of the business world. Someone like a predatory salesmen, or whatever. It's a slippery slope, and tons of people don't contribute much to society. I think I do just fine, I'm sure tons of other people on this board do too, and I'm sure there are lots of wastes of space too. But that doesn't make us much different from any other group of people IMO.

Why should I 'contribute to society' anyway?

That is fine and I completely agree with your sentiment. What I have issue with, and I am sure others as well.. is the moral guise people drape them selves in and the outrage that follows. No one here would cry if one weed dealer got ripped off by another. But when one poker player doesnt get re-payed, its a national emergency on 2p2.

Love how people are acting like negraunu will sort anything.

You do realise that he is the same as EL except he was lucky enough to be chosen by a different company