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Old 03-16-2012, 07:03 PM   #1501
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Re: Erick Lindgren Owes Over $100,000 for Fantasy League, Won't Pay

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As in last football season before any of this was know...
What?
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:54 PM   #1502
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What?
If for being and is want within but over because not just forever or can't there under was.
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Old 03-16-2012, 10:31 PM   #1503
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If for being and is want within but over because not just forever or can't there under was.
^^^Gets my vote for drunk post of the week..
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Old 03-16-2012, 10:40 PM   #1504
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If for being and is want within but over because not just forever or can't there under was.
Thanks for that, finally someone making sense ITT
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Old 03-16-2012, 10:47 PM   #1505
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1.Some of these pros (and many non-pros) seem to be legit gambling addicts. Well, that and possibly some other addiction/mental illness/family issues that really cloud their judgment.

2.My best wishes to everyone involved, but especially to those who, in this moment, are beginning to realize just how badly they messed up. Sometimes they just really lose control...
1. Really, you think?
2. Yes: +1
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If for being and is want within but over because not just forever or can't there under was.
has anyone ever been so far as to decide what to do more like?
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:02 AM   #1506
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Negreanu is such a hypocrite.

he now claims that private/degen debt is different to FTP/corporate debt.
He's been consistent on this from the start.

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So what about all the FTP pros who degened money away, what about all his FTP buds like Ivey, edog and Harmon who got paid in dirty money.

If something is wrong its wrong.
It's only wrong if they knew the money was dirty. AFAIK there is no proof that the likes of Lindgren and Harman knew that their dividends/salaries were tainted.

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You cant be some vocal moral crusader calling people out and not expect to get called out on this obvious hypocrisy.
There is no double-standard here. He isn't calling out others who owe, he's calling out a group of people who, it appears, willingly and knowingly deceived the whole poker community.

Daniel's made it clear that just because he won't publicly out people who owe/are broke degens, it doesn't mean he won't let someone know, privately, that these people shouldn't be loaned money. I think that's all that can be expected from him.
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:06 AM   #1507
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Protecting his friends obv. Also I find it funny how he acts like people don't have a right to be upset about the money they loaned to people and are now getting d1cked out of. And these "people" are supposed to be pioneers (lols) Well Daniel not everyone get's a 7 fig salary from Pokerstars rain or shine, so yah 20 gees is a lot kidd.
He made it clear that loaning someone money and not being paid back is different from winning money from someone and not being paid.

By "old school" standards loans come first, but if you loan money to someone you do so knowing the risks (since degeneracy it appears was/is more widespread among old school gamblers).

Anyway, Lindgren wasn't loaned money by OP and his FL league losses are obviously gambling losses.
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:21 AM   #1508
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I'm starting to think Eric snubbed Layne Flack (high five incident after Eric busts out 3rd in the 50k) for reasons other than Layne being Layne.
why then??
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:28 AM   #1509
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why then??
because he wasn´t invited to the three some ...
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:32 AM   #1510
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I have learned a valuable lesson from poker pros like Big E.

it doesnt matter if you owe somebody money as long as they owe somebody money too.



I shall apply this to all my future debts (total sarcasm because Im not a scumbag like the people I at one time idolized)
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Old 03-17-2012, 04:52 AM   #1511
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IRS : Mr Lindgren can we have the 3.5 million dollars you owe us sometime this week?

Erick : I apologize for the delay, holidays and now moving has tied me up timewise and cashwise. I will have it out to you as soon as i can, no later than next week.

IRS : Um Mr. Lindgren we are still waiting

Erick : Sorry family was in town. Will get a check out to you tomorrow.

IRS : Still haven't received your check Mr. Edog sir?

Erick : Just got back in town sorry. It went out today.

IRS :I don't think it went out, haven't gotten it?

Erick : Hey man just seeing your emails, sorry have been insanely busy with 3 month old, moving and getting back to playing. You have every right to do whatever you would like but i do promise I can get a check in the mail by tomorrow. I am in LA but have to go home tonight after poker to take care of some things. Hope that is ok.
ahhahaa sums up the degen
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Old 03-17-2012, 09:40 AM   #1512
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Re: Erick Lindgren Owes Over $100,000 for Fantasy League, Won't Pay

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He's been consistent on this from the start.
Consistent in the fact that he treats those he calls out differntly if they are not his friends.

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It's only wrong if they knew the money was dirty. AFAIK there is no proof that the likes of Lindgren and Harman knew that their dividends/salaries were tainted.
They have known its dirty money for months, they know NOW.

What have they done?

DN said that if Bitar was to blame then why are JF and HL staying silent.......

he said their silence is support for Bitar and the wrong doings of FTP

Yet all these other FTP pro friends of DN are staying just as silent. (except Durrrr who has pledged to do the right thing)



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There is no double-standard here. He isn't calling out others who owe, he's calling out a group of people who, it appears, willingly and knowingly deceived the whole poker community.

Daniel's made it clear that just because he won't publicly out people who owe/are broke degens, it doesn't mean he won't let someone know, privately, that these people shouldn't be loaned money. I think that's all that can be expected from him.
See above.

DN is selectively calling out people and ignoring others.

Those facts are not in dispute.

Its Hypocrisy, plain and simple.
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Old 03-17-2012, 09:58 AM   #1513
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Re: Erick Lindgren Owes Over $100,000 for Fantasy League, Won't Pay

Yea, I'm pretty sure most ppl on here would return money they earned from their job if they found out their boss was shady/ripping ppl off. Get real please.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:47 AM   #1514
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why then??
Erick was heads up at the final table trying to get his first WSOP bracelet. Layne was on the rail, was drunk, being an ******* and was yelling and disturbing Erick. No high five for him.
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Old 03-17-2012, 12:24 PM   #1515
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Yea, I'm pretty sure most ppl on here would return money they earned from their job if they found out their boss was shady/ripping ppl off. Get real please.
of course you are assuming that major shareholders had zero clue as to the shady things FTP was doing.

Talking of getting real, you are equating these huge shareholder dividend payments and playing on credit to a paying job.

I have seen no proof either way of what they knew except they are keeping silent.

If I genuinely knew nothing and had my rep at stake I would probably come out in public as Durrrr did and say exactly what I knew.

DN himself said that the silence is basically defending the guilty parties.
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