Originally Posted by Jigsaw (Post 31852319)

Why does anyone believe that anyone in poker can be trusted?

Originally Posted by ShizzMoney (Post 31996643)

E-Debt

Originally Posted by SneakySteve (Post 31999689)

Farha is a lebanese boss with deep pockets, he doesn't owe anyone, people owe him.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...c/SamFarha.jpg

Originally Posted by LloydBanks (Post 31729103)

Originally Posted by pokerzzfun (Post 31861240)

this is the real side of all these pros, we always see the other side of their lives - fancy cars, hot models, chartered jets, they just suckout every penny from hard working people n lead their extravagant life

Originally Posted by lefty rosen (Post 32003085)

What idiot thought that any pro that was spending 7 figures a year to "live" wasn't going bust at some point. The edges live and online are tiny these days. If you just watch some 2004 world series videos you will see donks get stacked off with second pair no draw for their entire buy in at level 1 or 2. I don't even see that at 2 dollar buy ins that often...:laugh: If athletes like Latrell Sprewell went broke after making 100 million gross went broke then a pro who has grossed less than 1/10th is going broke if he is spending like a super star celebrity...:confused:

Originally Posted by AllBlackDan (Post 32003300)

"Sprewell's career came to a premature end in 2005 when he refused a $21-million three-year contract offer from the Timberwolves, which he said would not be enough to feed his children. Since that time, he has made headlines for grounding his million dollar yacht, having two of his homes foreclosed upon, and being prohibited from seeing his children.[1]"

Lol awesome

Originally Posted by AllBlackDan (Post 32003300)

"Sprewell's career came to a premature end in 2005 when he refused a $21-million three-year contract offer from the Timberwolves, which he said would not be enough to feed his children. Since that time, he has made headlines for grounding his million dollar yacht, having two of his homes foreclosed upon, and being prohibited from seeing his children.[1]"

Lol awesome

Originally Posted by goingsomewhere (Post 32003645)

Platinum is the breakfast of champions

Originally Posted by juke (Post 31988722)

apparently it's John Hennigan that owes Daniel 500K

Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth (Post 31992746)

Specifically, it's the loose aggressive players whose overall win rate is actually small who are most likely to accumulate a big win and then regress towards the mean. But while they are winning they can look like great players, certainly much better than the tight less imaginative players who actually have higher win rates but smaller variances.

Best wishes,
Mason

Originally Posted by JohnnyIllini (Post 32008182)

To your point that there are some LAG players who have been falsely overrated, you are of course accurate MM. However, I disagree wholeheartedly that ABD TAG players have higher win rates. From a low stakes perspective, an ABC TAG player is certainly going to be a winner, but is also going to miss out on several opportunities that a more intelligent LAG player is going to capitalize on which increases win rate. From a higher stakes perspective, an ABC player is practically playing with her/her cards face up, and is even more exploitable by a superior player.

I highly doubt that any of the top handful of cash game players would fit your description of ABC, unimaginative, TAG players.

Originally Posted by mozborgata (Post 32003007)

Haha, was reading the Ivey LAPC thread and came across this -- isn't this 'e-dog' (what a corny name) there with him?? LOL. SO, he has enough money to do stuff like this but not attempt to make a dent in any of his debts. lol ok.

Originally Posted by SneakySteve (Post 31999689)

Farha is a lebanese boss with deep pockets, he doesn't owe anyone, people owe him.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...c/SamFarha.jpg

Originally Posted by c8meplacton (Post 31995123)

Read a big chunk of this...

my two cents:

Too many posts here seem of people who resent poker and bash probably for not being a winner any more since fishes no longer fold to 3 bets.

People act like poker was always great before Full tilt came around and **** it up. Like now is all Lindgrens fault for being a scumbag.

Historically is always been about crooks and honest players. You think the "gambler word is his bond" was nothing more than a necessity?

back in the day (like today) you had to be careful, but now we idiots who came through rounders and the internet feel like any wanker who´s been around the block is Kanish and feel like "we belong" if eskimo clark ask us for a stake at the Rio´s WC. We behave like all poker players are the bomb because TV said so.

We deserved this crap, like we deserve our politicians, and that remembers me that I read a post here saying that only pokerplayers are scum and outside poker all people are honest.

WTF?

If anyone here thinks the scumbags in poker are but babys compared with the true sharks in wall street, politics, pharmaceuticals or even the vatican needs to wake up, buddy!

The difference between FT and Madoff is that the three stooges folded for being incompetent at the first roadblock, while Madoff stole for decades and is probably running a new scam from his cell right now, while FT idiots are probably broke with all the accounts frozen.

Online poker and Tv has flush poker with money while us degens looked the other way at pokersites in offshores havens run by crooks with no guarantees as long as we could play and win and now we call foul...

**** us! 24 h ago I thought Lindgren was a "role model" for gamblers like me. Why? because I´m a donk who belives any crap Negreanu says and because people who knew kept their mouths shut. Let´s not forget that if E-dog had paid the guy who started this two weeks ago he would probably play fantasy with him again next season (that seems to be what they did with Lindgren until he was broke (the real problem here seem to be that he´s broke, not that he´s scum)

So I no longer will vouch for anyone because he´s a friend of a friend or Negreanu says he´s cool in his blog, but let´s not forget that are plenty of stand up guys around who don´t deserve to be put in the same boat with E-dog.

sorry for the brick..

PD

any photochopers willing to shop Lindgren´s photo on Richar Pryor in a "Brewster's Millions" picture to end my post ? :D

Originally Posted by ff2017 (Post 31996581)

I like how the start of this thread and the ensuing consequences mirrors:

http://gowers.wordpress.com/2012/01/...-its-downfall/

The two being a real life application of this:

http://terrytao.wordpress.com/2008/0...anders-puzzle/

Originally Posted by Bonfini (Post 32008321)

This post resonates.. +1
Am I doing it right? Lurker. :laugh:

Originally Posted by JLBlades (Post 32000755)

E-Gyp

Originally Posted by Flip-Flop (Post 32002529)

E-responsible

Originally Posted by SooperFish24 (Post 32011143)

Do any High Stakes "Pros" actually have any money?

Originally Posted by insidemanpoker (Post 31948230)

LOL, RYO, you are a joke. Anyone with half a brain would not call it much of a leap to take DN saying explicity "I saw a guy last night in SJ, chatted with him for a while, and wont out him publicly. He owes me close to half a million and I'll probably never see a dime of it" as him saying he was scammed out of 500k. If he will never see a dime of it, he was scammed, period. If he had said "the guy is working to pay me off but i likely won't see 100% of that money ever, that would be VERY different but this guy has scammed him by deciding to not ever pay him off anything at all. Nice derail though, waste of my time and I won't be responding again.

Originally Posted by shug_bomb (Post 32013546)

so that 500k owed to DN couldn't be the result of something like make-up from a failed MTT stake? it has to be a scam right?

the only reason you have to not respond further is because what you say is complete bull****, not for anything else

the DN-bashing in here really is pathetic