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DURRRRS MILLION DOLLAR CHALLENGE (Ivey and PA accept) DURRRRS MILLION DOLLAR CHALLENGE (Ivey and PA accept)

01-07-2009 , 04:17 PM
Iveys Red Pro rakeback is the winner here imo. I can't see this progressing to 50k hands though.
01-07-2009 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Recliner
Very exciting. When will this take place?
I think pritty soon meybe 2 weeks to a month when the challenge will start with PA or Ivey (hope so)
01-07-2009 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cadaz
Iveys Red Pro rakeback is the winner here imo. I can't see this progressing to 50k hands though.
rofl

ya the $.50 (max) rake per hand is really gonna make a difference at these stakes (25k if they would have a 100% flop seen range)
01-07-2009 , 04:30 PM
of course he can back out imo.

but, hes already got the whole innanet goin nuts over this. so i dont think it would be very good for his image to do so
01-07-2009 , 04:32 PM
.50 * 50k=$$$$

Plus, Durr likely did not count for rakeback so Ivey can rope a dope him and LOL TRICKED you +$1 at the end (after he gets his rackback payment)!

Ooops. I might have given it away.
01-07-2009 , 04:32 PM
durr is sitting at ivey thunderdome waiting for phil right now...
01-07-2009 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Cadaz
Iveys Red Pro rakeback is the winner here imo. I can't see this progressing to 50k hands though.

I don't think it will last longer than 15,000 hands. With the swings in PLO coupled with playing 4 tables, Durr's BR better be deep IMO because we all know that Ivey's is the deepest.
01-07-2009 , 05:00 PM
Quoting myself from page 4 because it's tilting me so many people think durrrr is giving 3/1.

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Originally Posted by Radar101
A player with an even chance against durrrr is getting far less than 3/1. Mathematicians would be able to express it far better than me but I imagine it's something like (the standard deviation over 50k hands +$1.5m)/ (standard deviation +500k). So if the standard deviation is say 2m (a figure totally plucked out of the air) the odds would be 3.5/2.5 or 7/5.

For a player with a 25% chance, the standard deviation would be greater in the case he lost. Again these figures are plucked from the air, but say if he lost he could expect to lose 3m and if he won he could expect to win 1m, the odds would be (1m + 1.5m) / (3m + 500k). Works out at 5/7.

A player somewhere in between 25% and 50% will stand an even chance in this bet.
01-07-2009 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by doc watson
durr is sitting at ivey thunderdome waiting for phil right now...
but there aren t 4 tables like thunderdome.
01-07-2009 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by doc watson
durr is sitting at ivey thunderdome waiting for phil right now...
Just looked at that. Hilarious to click on Hansen Knockout and see a wait list 9 deep hoping he comes.
01-07-2009 , 05:04 PM
wow looking forward to this challenge sick sick durrrr
01-07-2009 , 05:04 PM
i don't see why anyone would agree to do this without the sidebet money in escrow, to prevent either side from playing while actually broken. but the corollary to that is that someone has to know they have enough to not go broke, because they'd be forced to quit due to swings otherwise.
01-07-2009 , 05:08 PM
go to the Thunderdome Ivey!
01-07-2009 , 05:09 PM
maybe they could use some kind of cap i.e. if somebody is down 4M he can quit without having to pay the money from the bet.
01-07-2009 , 05:10 PM
The bet is at 200/400. If they're playing at Thunderdome, it's not the bet.
01-07-2009 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
The bet is at 200/400. If they're playing at Thunderdome, it's not the bet.
Isn't it a min of 4 tables at any stakes at or higher than 200/400? It won't count if they 1 table thunderdome...but if lets say they pay 2 5/1k tables and 2 300/600 tables, it will count.
01-07-2009 , 05:15 PM
Who knows it the terms for the bet are even set yet, but in his call with Barry, Ivey talks about them playing 200/400.
01-07-2009 , 05:20 PM
With Ivey already admitting (i believe everything) durrr will have an edge in the beginning I doubt he's gonna play different stakes at the same time.

Is it known yet if it's gonna be PLO or NL .. or both?
01-07-2009 , 05:25 PM
I would imagine they try to play most hands during the happy hour so they can 2x their ftp points
01-07-2009 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LJ023
go to the Thunderdome Ivey!
Why in the world is everybody screaming for Ivey? I thought DB was first up?
01-07-2009 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by random hater
Even if Durrrr is -EV in this series of bets, he's really +EV money wise. He's probably up $10M this year and owes $4M in taxes or w/e if he doesn't go broke by April. So if he plays these three matches, he can save the $4M in taxes if he goes broke, and if he ends up $20M in front, he has a good enough reason to pull an Eastgate and move to the UK before April. So he's really risking $6M to win $14M. Good bet.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=143527
01-07-2009 , 05:38 PM
By the way, do you guys prefer a PLO or NL-match?

I vote for NL, cause for me (and i know this is going to sound n00bish) NL is easier to rail en i perhaps understand why they make certain moves.

However, the variance and swings in PLO are huuuuuuuuuge and i'd love to see some sick epic movement in those stakes :P your comments?
01-07-2009 , 05:38 PM
...your too hot
01-07-2009 , 05:42 PM
This link gives a hint on what variance these players have:

http://blog.propclothing.com/2008/08...ngs-superuser/

Huge swings! And still most players have a stop loss limit that will be difficult to keep in this challenge.
01-07-2009 , 05:45 PM
Who gets to decide the game/stakes...durrrr/opponent or both?

      
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