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DrRunsick on 2+2 has scammed multiple people
His worthless blog,
http://drrunsick.wordpress.com/
His FB,
http://en-gb.facebook.com/people/Ben...ello/656795635
DrRunsick on stars, as well as BenCostello on stars
drrunsick on DC
BenCostello on FT
He said one of his best mates is the business development manager for Merge -Feb 2011
He was working for an insurance company in the claims department as a claims administrator- March 2011

DrRunsick from Brisbane QLD Australia is a scab.

[8:17:45 AM] sebastian_worm: Well if anyone is interested, im pretty sure that he has scammed me for 1k - long time ago though

[8:33:27 AM] Matthew (Sectral): i can take any bet that hes a scammer
up to 1k





This little rat scab, trickass bitch mother ****er played 400plo with a 50plo stake I got him and lost it all. He either chipdumped or degened 850 euros and only raked 20. The staker fronted him 3 pieces of software including HEM, Hand grabber, and some other junk.

He said almost two days ago now that he would come back online and explain everything, he has yet to show back up on skype.

Runsick you rat, your gonna pay back the stakers money, my money that you chipdumped, Im gonna let that ride.

I dont think your gonna pay, so Im already selling my car, which is worth 6k, for 2k or best offer.2k OR BEST OFFER YOU WORTHLESS ASS LIEING TRICK



If you dont pay,

I had to delete my favorite part of the thread per 2+2 rules,

http://youtu.be/kgvMpm9z0TI

[1:51:12 PM] Sebastian Worm: [Saturday, December 03, 2011 5:43 PM] Sebastian Worm:

<<< no he was sweating me
had been playing rush for a long time and just started to play regular tables at that point, so forgot everything about being careful - Some guy (pynero) sits down at one or two of my tables, plays really fishy etc. He starts to ask about hu (omg so obvious, damn i was stupid) well i accept, and I play him at 4 tables I think, and I was really suspiscious a bit in the session.
played almost 1k hands
17% WTSD, 25% W$SD or something like that
I obviously posted this in the 6m mod group and we all agreed that it was really wierd, and we almost kicked him from the grp - The problem was that there were like 4-5 guys sweating me.
Pynero I played was from australia (check PTR)
Some time after this happened, about a month... I was doing asweat session with matthew(sectral), and Costello wanted in... Pynero sits down after 5min.
He left the group short after this I think, so didn't think too much about it and I was kinda having a break from poker at that time - I do feel ashamed for not doing more about this.
[2:02:35 PM] Sebastian Worm: there seems to be some evidence that someone from the group is ghosting sessions under the sn 'pynero'
[28/05/2011 20:24:01] Toby: where? when? who?
[28/05/2011 20:24:22 | Edited 20:25:02] mcfals02 (steven): first vs seb for 10bi
[28/05/2011 20:24:26 | Edited 20:24:38] mcfals02 (steven): couple of weeks ago
[28/05/2011 20:24:49] Toby: what site?
[28/05/2011 20:24:50 | Edited 20:25:23] mcfals02 (steven): and then just then vs devin and i remembered the sn and told him to cut off the stream
[28/05/2011 20:25:09] Toby: did they mention or did you notice?
[28/05/2011 20:25:12] Toby: and why do you think so?
[28/05/2011 20:25:38] mcfals02 (steven): but not before he had taken him for a bit
[28/05/2011 20:26:01] Sebastian Worm: I ran 38% W$SD and 17% WTSD in a 3-4table hu match at nl100 vs a aggro fish
[28/05/2011 20:26:11] Sebastian Worm: over 1.2k hands
[28/05/2011 20:26:44] Toby: so why do you think so?
[28/05/2011 20:27:44] Sebastian Worm: I posted mikogo details public in the grp... Didnt think much of it because thats what I had done for a while (playing rush) - but this time I was actually playing regular tables
[28/05/2011 20:28:01] Sebastian Worm: suddenly this guy "pynero" sits down and asks for HU at one of my tables
[28/05/2011 20:28:25] mcfals02 (steven): i cant remember what gave the idea from the first session
[28/05/2011 20:28:48] mcfals02 (steven): but i was watching devin and then remember the sn after theyd been playing for a while
[28/05/2011 20:29:06] Toby: does mikogo record a log of the connection details?
[28/05/2011 20:29:26] mcfals02 (steven): fishy stuff like, the account has only 10k tracked hands, but manages to stumble into a HU session with two of our group whilst theyre playing on stream
[28/05/2011 20:29:39] mcfals02 (steven): and that seb was playing 6m and got asked for HU
[28/05/2011 20:29:47] Sebastian Worm: he seems pretty fishy so I couldnt resist playing 4tables nl100 v him
[28/05/2011 20:29:58] Toby: feel really bad for u
[28/05/2011 20:30:11] Toby: we need to go through the group and get people to verify their ft screename
[28/05/2011 20:30:27] Toby: starting with all the aussie people we know
[28/05/2011 20:30:56] mcfals02 (steven): i know some of the people from sebs sweat but because it was public dont have the entire list
[28/05/2011 20:31:17] Sebastian Worm: 17,5% WTSD - 35,5% W$SD - 1075 hands, -10 bi
[28/05/2011 20:31:36] Sebastian Worm: the largest amount I won was 22bb ^^
[28/05/2011 20:31:50] Toby: well thats a good list to start
[28/05/2011 20:31:55] Toby: any aussies you know too
[28/05/2011 20:32:27] Toby: hes from brisbane to be more specific
[28/05/2011 20:32:27] Toby: male
[28/05/2011 20:33:09] Toby: just searched the main poker sites to see if a screename has been mentione dbut nothing
[28/05/2011 20:34:08] mcfals02 (steven): how you getting brisbane
[28/05/2011 20:34:18] Toby: just google
[28/05/2011 20:34:30] Toby: lost the site now
[28/05/2011 20:34:38] Toby: pocket fives i think
[28/05/2011 20:34:47] Toby: http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/pynero/
[28/05/2011 20:35:08] mcfals02 (steven): dokula / ben costello / tank girl were in on sebs sweat
[28/05/2011 20:35:13] mcfals02 (steven): but there were quite a few more i think
[28/05/2011 20:35:59] Toby: he gets rakeback from rakeback pros
[28/05/2011 20:36:02] mcfals02 (steven): in devins, me, matthew (sectral), panthro, ben costello, and i think alex
[28/05/2011 20:36:44] Toby: 99% sure its not sectral or ben because they played hu vs each other and im rly sure their sn werent either
[28/05/2011 20:36:55] Toby: unless they used a friends account
[28/05/2011 20:37:33] mcfals02 (steven): i think its a friends account rather than theirs because of the hands played
[28/05/2011 20:39:39] Toby: i cant find much info
[28/05/2011 20:41:11] Toby: i ****ing hate people
[28/05/2011 20:42:23] Toby: tbh
[28/05/2011 20:43:10] mcfals02 (steven): yea
[28/05/2011 20:44:36] Toby: we need to someone to sit down at some heads up tables and advertise in the group that they want people to sweat. they don't have to play (can just fake a timeout) but wait till the kid sits down and record anyone that connects (use teamviewer as i think you can get the ip address)
[28/05/2011 20:45:14] mcfals02 (steven): im not sure it can be that blatant since they kept playing after devin turned off the stream
[28/05/2011 20:45:18] mcfals02 (steven): at least for a little while
[28/05/2011 20:45:39] mcfals02 (steven): so if they are doing it, theyre at least not being completely obvious
[28/05/2011 20:46:21] Toby: did he play like he knew their hole cards?
[28/05/2011 20:46:47] mcfals02 (steven): hard to tell
[28/05/2011 20:47:02] mcfals02 (steven): very aggro when devin seemingly had nothing
[28/05/2011 20:47:18] Toby: did devin get stacks in good?
[28/05/2011 20:48:01] mcfals02 (steven): didnt get stacks in much that i recall
[28/05/2011 20:48:14] mcfals02 (steven): side note: 25bi under ev since last month, yew
[28/05/2011 20:48:44] Toby: sucks
[28/05/2011 20:48:53] Toby: so what are we going to do?
[28/05/2011 20:51:31] mcfals02 (steven): not sure there is antyhing we can do since no proof
[28/05/2011 20:51:43] Toby: doesnt mean we cant ask everyone to verify their ftp screename
[28/05/2011 20:51:55] Toby: then we send that list to ftp with the original name
[28/05/2011 20:52:02] Toby: get them to cross check ip addresses
[28/05/2011 20:54:24] mcfals02 (steven): im not sure that live sweats wouldnt contravene their ToS
[28/05/2011 20:54:47] Toby: there was a similar case and they blocked the account
[28/05/2011 20:54:48] mcfals02 (steven): and im certainly not going to be the one to get devins / sebs accounts locked
[28/05/2011 20:57:00] mcfals02 (steven): got a link?
[28/05/2011 20:57:10] Toby: im lookin
[28/05/2011 20:57:17] mcfals02 (steven): kk
[28/05/2011 20:59:02] Toby: cant find it
[28/05/2011 20:59:05] Toby: there defo was a case
[28/05/2011 20:59:16] Toby: because its why we stopped doing it in the main chat before
[28/05/2011 21:00:49] Toby: on a side note aparently it violates ftp tos to let people sweat you
[29/05/2011 00:38:22] mcfals02 (steven): [13. marts 2011 14:51] harvie (BG1):

<<< ben were do u live
[29/05/2011 00:38:29] mcfals02 (steven): [13. marts 2011 14:52] Benjamin Costello:

<<< Brisbane, Australia
[29/05/2011 02:41:29] Sebastian Worm: ok thats pretty sick
[29/05/2011 02:42:48] Sebastian Worm: he was watching me while playing that guy... and I was chatting with him the whole session so if he actually was "ghosting" - he did a sick job
[29/05/2011 07:21:34] mcfals02 (steven): well i think its probably a friend of someone (ben / alex maybe) rather than them themselves
[29/05/2011 07:22:07] mcfals02 (steven): theyd just forward on the screen cap by starting teamviewer if you were using miko or vice versa so then they could participate in the sweat without being delayed
[29/05/2011 10:52:28] Jack Wilcox - Hoodlincs: just read through what happened, thats really sick
[29/05/2011 15:00:28] harvie (BG1): [28. maj 2011 20:27] Sebastian Worm:

<<< suddenly this guy "pynero" sits down and asks for HU at one of my tables
can you ask FTP to look into this as its could be classed as cheating
[29/05/2011 15:00:50] harvie (BG1): i would advise to remove your funds from FTP before filing any sort of compalint, as im unsure on FTP rules on "live sweating"
[29/05/2011 15:13:50] mcfals02 (steven): yea ive been thinking about it but im not sure
[29/05/2011 15:14:10] mcfals02 (steven): probably not worth it for devin :/
[29/05/2011 15:14:14] Toby: i tried to get bens screename earlier
[29/05/2011 15:14:21] Toby: but he suddenly dissapeared
[29/05/2011 15:14:43] mcfals02 (steven): i think it breaks the TOS having a coach sweat a student but i dunno if its the same in the reverse way
[29/05/2011 15:15:03] Toby: i read on 2p2 it isnt allowed yesterday
[29/05/2011 15:15:51] mcfals02 (steven): having a student sweat a coach?
[29/05/2011 15:16:11] Toby: having someone watch you when you're playing
[29/05/2011 15:16:16] Toby: it wasnt very specific
[29/05/2011 15:16:23] mcfals02 (steven): mmm
[29/05/2011 15:16:53] Toby: it was a coach from DC that said they were told from the DC founders that you cant do a live video on FTP but other sites you can.
[29/05/2011 15:18:15] harvie (BG1): or contact FTPsean ftpdoug on 2+2 see what they can do
[29/05/2011 15:18:36] Toby: we really need to get people screenames so they can cross check ip addresses at least
[29/05/2011 15:18:49] Toby: and that still isnt certain
[29/05/2011 15:21:25] mcfals02 (steven): what would we cross check ips with
[29/05/2011 15:21:44] Toby: they would check it against the ip address of the account
[29/05/2011 15:22:06] mcfals02 (steven): i think its more likely to be a friend of someone than the person themselves
[29/05/2011 15:22:12] Toby: [29. maj 2011 15:18] Toby:

<<< and that still isnt certain
[29/05/2011 15:22:25] Toby: doesnt mean it isnt worth trying
[29/05/2011 15:22:38] mcfals02 (steven): i was lead to believe that bens sn is bencostello http://www.pokertableratings.com/ful...ch/BenCostello
[29/05/2011 15:23:01] Toby: lol
[29/05/2011 15:23:02] mcfals02 (steven): but i dunno
[29/05/2011 15:23:02] Toby: nice grph
[29/05/2011 15:23:59] mcfals02 (steven): id understood he mainly plays plo and ptr hasnt been tracking ftp for quite a while so
[29/05/2011 15:27:42] mcfals02 (steven): ill be back on later
[29/05/2011 15:27:52] mcfals02 (steven): need to sleep for a bit
[29/05/2011 18:53:23] Toby: [29. maj 2011 18:37] Benjamin Costello:

<<< i have a mate who bumhunts 5/10
he's making like 250k a year
playing **** all hands
[29/05/2011 18:54:21] mcfals02 (steven): yea that dont mean ****
[29/05/2011 18:54:51] Toby: yeah but we can find out who it is maybe
[04/06/2011 01:42:48] mcfals02 (steven): muted bencostello for spamming bs in the channel
[04/06/2011 01:42:58] mcfals02 (steven): 12 hr mute
[04/06/2011 01:43:07] mcfals02 (steven): gonna start muting / banning people more often i think
[04/06/2011 01:44:29] mcfals02 (steven): something like
1hr - 6hr - 24hr - kick (day) - ban
[04/06/2011 01:44:52] mcfals02 (steven): i dunno im tired, so if someone wants to unmute bencostello in 6hrs then go ahead but i wont be back till later
[04/06/2011 01:45:43] mcfals02 (steven): just getting annoyed at telling same people over and over
[04/06/2011 01:58:02 | Edited 01:59:02] Sebastian Worm: I haven't seen what ben wrote though... but midasmp comments seemed kinda arrogant
[04/06/2011 01:58:18 | Edited 01:58:32] Sebastian Worm: like he felt that he needed to talk down to someone
[04/06/2011 02:04:54] mcfals02 (steven): theyre friends
[04/06/2011 02:04:59] mcfals02 (steven): theyre just messing about
[04/06/2011 02:05:25] mcfals02 (steven): at least thats how i saw it
[04/06/2011 02:05:30] Sebastian Worm: oh ok :P
[07/06/2011 00:36:44] mcfals02 (steven): so apparently pynero showed up on the tables when seb was running a live sweat again
[07/06/2011 00:51:22] mcfals02 (steven): [7. juni 2011 00:49] Sebastian Worm:

<<< I had matt watching and Ben was joining and 30sec after he got on the stream - pynero sat down on one of my empty tables and i said "no hu" didnt wanna seem to obvious about it... and he said "no hu, ill leave", "gl" and left again
5-10min after that either Ben or brody left TV again
[07/06/2011 00:55:05] mcfals02 (steven): so only people in the stream were costello / brody / matt?
[7:54:39 AM] Sebastian Worm - zrofoldsmafaka: yep
[07/06/2011 00:56:44] mcfals02 (steven): people in the chats from sebs old session were Ben, tankgirl and dokula1 were the only ones I noticed who was on the stream most of the time
[07/06/2011 00:56:50] mcfals02 (steven): but there were others because it was posted publically
[07/06/2011 00:57:59] Sebastian Worm: yep... I really feel that it can't be random
[07/06/2011 00:58:40] mcfals02 (steven): devin was me, matt, panthro, ben
[07/06/2011 01:01:32] Sebastian Worm: pynero isnt online atm, and it happened like 40 mins ago
[07/06/2011 01:02:30] mcfals02 (steven): yea
[07/06/2011 01:02:50] mcfals02 (steven): he wasnt online even shortly afterwards because i searched the tables
[07/06/2011 01:06:52] Sebastian Worm: [00:59:56] Sebastian Worm: im in action now for those who wanna sweat
[01:00:29] Benjamin Costello: 200nl 6m seb?
[01:04:12] brody zagar: can i watch?
[01:05:15] Sebastian Worm: yes nl200
[01:06:15] Benjamin Costello: shoot code away
[07/06/2011 01:08:54] Sebastian Worm: [7. juni 2011 00:14] Benjamin Costello:

<<< what hud stats do u use? do u have a skype call going?
no skype call?
[07/06/2011 01:09:41] mcfals02 (steven): why does your profile on skype say auckland, new zealand?
[8:06:12 AM] Benjamin Costello: i spent a year in NZ playing rugby
[8:06:14 AM] Benjamin Costello: haven't changed it
[8:06:30 AM] Benjamin Costello: totally forgot it was like that, haha
[8:06:31 AM] mcfals02 (steven): who'd ya play for
[8:06:41 AM] Benjamin Costello: U20's Cantebury Crusaders
[8:06:47 AM] Benjamin Costello: wrecked my shoulder
[8:06:50 AM] Benjamin Costello: and can't play rugby again
[07/06/2011 01:09:56] mcfals02 (steven): so at least had a reason for the location being different to where he lives
[07/06/2011 01:11:57 | Edited 01:12:18] Sebastian Worm: yep... we also had a long chat the first time I played against pynero - unfortunately I cant get it in here because I've installed win7 since then.
He was asking about the different hands and saying stuff like how he thinks that I should adjust to pyneros playstyle etc.
[07/06/2011 01:12:31] mcfals02 (steven): thats what you'd expect someone to do tho right
[07/06/2011 01:12:47] Sebastian Worm: yeah thats true
[07/06/2011 01:26:55] mcfals02 (steven): i cant think of a way to prove anything
[07/06/2011 01:27:13] mcfals02 (steven): but i think he probably is
[07/06/2011 01:27:47] mcfals02 (steven): vote to kick or not
[07/06/2011 01:28:02] mcfals02 (steven): or even just comment and ill deal with it later
[07/06/2011 01:32:28] Sebastian Worm: im not sure how to handle it either...
[07/06/2011 16:38:16] Jack Wilcox - Hoodlincs: ben is bencostello on ftp he told me
[07/06/2011 16:38:25] Jack Wilcox - Hoodlincs: u think he has 2 accounts?
[07/06/2011 16:39:28] mcfals02 (steven): i think its a friends account
[07/06/2011 16:39:50] mcfals02 (steven): so he'll start a new session and screen share, or type the hands to his friend
[07/06/2011 16:40:31] mcfals02 (steven): http://www.pokertableratings.com/ful...-search/pynero
[07/06/2011 16:40:38] mcfals02 (steven): look at the amount of hands played total
[07/06/2011 16:40:51] mcfals02 (steven): but he has managed to show up to 3 live sweats
[07/06/2011 16:41:05] mcfals02 (steven): once with seb where he sat at 6m then asked for HU then took seb for 10 bi
[07/06/2011 16:41:45] mcfals02 (steven): once vs devin at the end of a review when devin mentioned he was sitting at hu tables waiting for action which was cut short when i remembered the username but still took devin for ~400 playing with 30% 3b
[07/06/2011 16:41:58] mcfals02 (steven): im not sure how he ran vs seb
[07/06/2011 16:42:06] mcfals02 (steven): then in another session with seb when he was running a live sweat
[07/06/2011 16:42:28] mcfals02 (steven): about 30 seconds after ben joined the stream
[07/06/2011 16:42:36] mcfals02 (steven): but seb didnt play with him
[07/06/2011 16:44:07] Toby: if it was pokerstars we would instant tell support since they allow live sweats but ftp aparently dont like it so much
[07/06/2011 16:58:31] Jack Wilcox - Hoodlincs: that sounds real weird
[07/06/2011 16:58:38] Jack Wilcox - Hoodlincs: what is his location? nz?
[07/06/2011 16:59:35] mcfals02 (steven): who
[07/06/2011 16:59:39] mcfals02 (steven): ben? pynero?
[07/06/2011 17:00:23] Jack Wilcox - Hoodlincs: well both, ben is australian i think, if pynero was like croation or something i dont think its likely they are friends
[07/06/2011 17:06:12 | Edited 17:07:35] mcfals02 (steven): pynero is from brisbane aus according to http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/pynero/ and PTR saying he is from aus
[07/06/2011 17:06:17] mcfals02 (steven): ben is from brisbane aus
[07/06/2011 17:09:22] Jack Wilcox - Hoodlincs: wow ok that is def very suspicious
[07/06/2011 17:09:29] Jack Wilcox - Hoodlincs: and i would say it seems super suspicious anyway
[07/06/2011 17:10:11] Jack Wilcox - Hoodlincs: pocketfives is a forum right?\
[07/06/2011 17:11:07] Jack Wilcox - Hoodlincs: is there an easy way to say to ben like 'hey i was on pocketfives and there was a small-stakes player called pynero from brisbane - do u know him?'
[07/06/2011 17:23:05] Toby: watch this
[07/06/2011 17:23:09] mcfals02 (steven): well that'd be pretty obvious
[07/06/2011 17:23:20] Toby: i was just about to typr
[07/06/2011 17:23:34] Toby: "has anyone played pynero, he wants to play some hu but not sure whether hes any good"
[07/06/2011 17:23:54] mcfals02 (steven): thatd be even more obv lol
[07/06/2011 17:25:24] Jack Wilcox - Hoodlincs: hmm yeah i dunno u dont have to make it obv
[07/06/2011 17:25:32] Toby: i guess
[07/06/2011 17:37:39] mcfals02 (steven): you could get him to do a miko session, get him to go into his cashier->history->past transactions
[07/06/2011 17:37:46] mcfals02 (steven): see if there is anything with pynero
[07/06/2011 17:38:32] mcfals02 (steven): i assume hed get a cut, whether or not he gets paid online or in person is a diff story
[07/06/2011 17:38:57] Sebastian Worm: or make him search pynero in HEM
[07/06/2011 17:39:21] Sebastian Worm: but I guess its more likely that its a friend...
[07/06/2011 18:05:13] Jack Wilcox - Hoodlincs: i think getting him to open his cashier on mikogo is more suspicious way of asking him than saying 'do u know an aussie player called pynero
[07/06/2011 18:05:52] mcfals02 (steven): "do you know an aussie player called pynero?"
no
[07/06/2011 18:06:49] Sebastian Worm: if he denies to open his cashier... he will simply just get a kick? - doesn't really matter if it is suspicious?
[07/06/2011 18:10:27] Jack Wilcox - Hoodlincs: if you kick him anyway, will you tell him the reason
[07/06/2011 18:11:29] mcfals02 (steven): i was pretty close to kicking him anyway tbh

Just as an FYI for any other NVG mods who see the previously deleted thread, OP was given permission to repost if he made the necessary corrections.

/mod note

Cliffs!

Ok heres my input on the situation. My experiences with Ben was that he seemed to be a bit of a loose cannon, busting rolls, taking shots that were ridiculous bankroll wise.

Anyway first time I let him sweat me was when I was playing 50nl hu. I was fairly new to the group so I was in denial on how trustworthy people were. So I chat to the guy for a bit and sit hu and before all this is said he tells me he is from New Zealand.

A guy from australia sits and I play for a while, I make some horrible plays but in doing so lets me see his holecards on a couple of occasions, which for the line taken etc seemed very bizaree. I lost a small amount but didnt look to much into it.

The next occasion is when 4 - 5 players are sweating Sebastian playing 6max when a fish/losing player according to ptr sits down and challenges him to hu 4 tables.

The hu action happens and Seb loses around 1k. Im sure he will go in more detail about it. Yet again nothing could be brought up, just speculation since there were so many sweating.

Onto the next 1... This is when devin our 1k regular in the group was playing a couple of tables and offered people to sweat. This time there was only me, ben, mcfals and devin.

The same username that played seb hu sits down and asks for hu. Devin accepts and plays for a while losing only to non showdown. Mcfals private msgs devin while playing to tell that the screen name looks fimilar. The sweat instant gets stopped and we are left in the call. I say as a joke "Yo ben you got busted for ghosting son." Kind of ironic really..

Finally onto the last time. I am sweating seb playing 6 max when ben asks to get in on the sweat. Me and seb discuss how funny it would be if the player sits down known as "pynero" or something along those lines.. *not sure if its the right screen name*

Anyway after ben joins the teamviewer what do you know "pynero" or whatever his sn was sits down. At this stage me and seb are thinking can this guy really be this dumb. He sits at one of the empty 6max tables and asks for hu. Seb declines while trying not to look suspicious since after all ben is sweating him.

Thats all I have for now on the whole deal. Yes we should of spoken up on this scamming but as stated we didnt have any real solid proof. Im only speaking of this because OP got in contact saying about ben scamming. So it has to stop at some stage!

DrRunsick on stars, as well as BenCostello on stars
umm what?????

it sucks that you got scammed, but why would you let someone you dont know teamview you and then accept some random hu request?

lol, what does this even mean? you feel like youre responsible for paying back the stake? you could prob get a better deal if you just hang onto it for a while.

How do you not understand that?

It's getting to the point where we need a "Scammer Containment" thread with a list of all the scammers names updated into first post as each new one comes to light.

Ive never wanted to give a post a +1 more than this one.

Was thinking about this idea a couple days ago. Make a blacklist or some ****

so, you staked him for 50 plo w/ 850 euros, he played 400 plo instead and lost, now you're selling your car for 4k less than what it's worth? i think i got everything

so sick how these scammers are always broke too, he sounds like an epic dumbass to continue sitting vs you guys like that i mean wtf?

anyway hope you take him down, always like seeing a scammer get got

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgvMp...ature=youtu.be

Make sure u listen to this song Costello you rat

Are you too stupid to understand my point? He has two accounts which is against the TOS.