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Originally Posted by .isolated
unsurprisingly you missed his point. Do you think the people who go to upswing actually put the effort in and make the games tougher? I can tell you just from reading the facebook posts there that a bunch of people misapply a bunch of concepts that Doug and Ryan teach. Maybe they won't be completely clueless but they're not exactly making money or going to beat an even moderately tough table and they're dead money against competent players...they're there because of Doug. Sorry if you're not a competent player (not you in particular, but the people who complain about this).
I joined Upswing about two months ago after surfing most of his youtube work. Been playing a few sessions a month, mostly live 1/2 & 2/5 cash games since 2005. Always read poker books, lingered P5 and 2P2, daily checked CP & PokerNews. Would never consider myself a profitable player before- probably break-even at best. Upswing is the first time I have used a training site.
At first I was applying techniques at 1/2 & 1/3 live that were a little advanced for most and went on a 10 buy-in loss. But I am glad I jumped in and applied what I learned. I saw what was and wasn't working at those stakes. I choose to apply certain things depending on the table and I am finding more success.
Most importantly, there is a certain level of confidence that I have that was not there before. I feel like I had the ideas of what Doug was saying but couldn't put them into context and application. He puts material plainly and applies examples well. However, If I were to read and try to learn from the Facebook group, it would not be a good venture. I am happy with the Lab and will continue to look forward to new content.
To get on to the question of whether Doug is growing poker, without a doubt I would say yes. I'm surprised by how many people mention him by "Doug" now and how people know who the speaker is talking about. One could say that's simply growth of a brand and that would be correct. But Doug's ability to relate and teach helps him reach a tantamount number of players in a varying spectrum of ways that make them more likely to be active within the poker community in one way or another.