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08-05-2016 , 06:37 PM
WTF are you Communityists talking about?
It's a well known fact that Full Tilt was a Ponzi scheme and anyone on team full tilt had access to a nitch market of instant interest free loans from FT at the expense of the unringfenced pool of player funds at the click of button and infinitely freeroll opponents who didn't have access to the same means of funds (i.e. an unlimited bankroll). This enabled the whole clusterfcuk in the first place, which if you think about it - its basically organised theft.

If FT doesn't get shut down, challonge gets completed and Jungle gets paid handsomely twofold. Escrow or no Escrow. So it was a scam of consequence instead of the biggest poker scam of all time.

Also, can we change the opening gambit to Polkerviews instead of Polkernews?
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08-05-2016 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TopPair2Pair
WTF are you Communityists talking about?
It's a well known fact that Full Tilt was a Ponzi scheme and anyone on team full tilt had access to a nitch market of instant interest free loans from FT at the expense of the unringfenced pool of player funds at the click of button and infinitely freeroll opponents who didn't have access to the same means of funds (i.e. an unlimited bankroll). This enabled the whole clusterfcuk in the first place, which if you think about it - its basically organised theft.

If FT doesn't get shut down, challonge gets completed and Jungle gets paid handsomely twofold. Escrow or no Escrow. So it was a scam of consequence instead of the biggest poker scam of all time.
I'm not sure if you're leveling or not

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08-05-2016 , 06:52 PM
Sorry I don't discuss posting strategy on forums

Last edited by TopPair2Pair; 08-05-2016 at 06:54 PM. Reason: I'm balanced but unbalanced. Polarising, rght?
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08-05-2016 , 11:41 PM
Anyone else think it's douchey to put that photo of blom up? Why does he deserve ridicule? For being a legend and trying to make lots of money?
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08-06-2016 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CRMartin11
There's no debate that at one point in time Dwan was one of the best 6max NL players in the world. The fact that he is very likely no longer world class doesn't take away from his accomplishment's; it's like crapping on athletes of a previous generation. Dwan's objective skill level may not be very high, but for a significant period of time he relatively was the best. He'll always be a legend, and I felt Doug didn't give him the credit he deserves or accurately describe his career.
No he won't. Art Tatum is a legend. Babe Ruth is a legend. Isaac Newton is a legend. Why are they legends? Because they still intimidate 50, 75, 300 years later. Because modern participants in their respective fields still use those timeless names as yardsticks by which they measure modern performance on modern terms. That's what makes a legend.

Dean gets OG respek and that's enough.
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08-06-2016 , 03:12 AM
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Yes you would. There are ballparks that are more prone to give up home runs than others and even in that bunch some favor a right-handed hitter over a left-handed one.

I guarantee that a home run hitter hitting in a park more prone to give up home runs because of air density or specifically to someone hitting from his side of the plate because of things such as wind-flows or the distance to the fence or even the type of opposing pitcher that day is going to adopt a style (e.g., pulling the ball) to maximize that advantage on that day.
^ So what YOU are saying is "Depending on the shape and location of the park, Hank Aaron swung a bat in a way that just happened to be exceptionally good at striking the ball soundly."
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08-06-2016 , 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BadlyBeaten
Wait, what? Would you say "Hank Aaron swung a bat in a way that just happened to be exceptionally good at striking the ball soundly?" Would that make sense?
Here's what's wrong with this. Once you're in the major leagues, it's fair to say that virtually everyone is a top player. So once you can hit like Hank Aaron you should be just fine no matter where you're playing or who is pitching.

That's not what happens in poker where some of your opponents can be very weak players. And it's certainly possible that a player can have a style that does extremely well against weak players but poorly against strong players.

Mason
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08-06-2016 , 06:34 AM
Doug what you are doing here is great. It's entertaining, funny, intelligent and as far as I can tell one of the only - I wanna say optimistic / positive thing about online poker left - not in the sense that it shows online poker is not dead (cuz it kind of is) but in the sense that you make it FUN and therefore it inherently is positive. Something we see little of around the nvg/2p2 streets recently. Positivity.

The most amazing thing about your game to me is not how well you play (debatable )
or how much you have made playing the game but how much FUN you still seem to have by simply flopping top two in a 2/4 game on ACR. How much fun you have competing...Still. And really just overall that you (GTO/Strat aside) just love playing the game.

It reminds me that in the end that is what this is. A game. And a fun one even if It is "dead" in terms of a way to make a decent steady income.

You had me at "we don't want him to have any bus change we want him to walk home". Such an HU barking thing to say.

Keep it up man. Props where props are due.
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08-06-2016 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BadlyBeaten
^ So what YOU are saying is "Depending on the shape and location of the park, Hank Aaron swung a bat in a way that just happened to be exceptionally good at striking the ball soundly."
No amount of forcing will make your point valid.

Hank Aaron or any hitter adjusts his swing and mindset in an at-bat (hit away, pull hit etc) to reflect the pitcher, ballpark, and conditions in which they are playing at that moment to get the best result possible. For a home run hitter, that is a home run. For a poker player, that is adopting a style to best exploit the opponents faced at that moment so as to make the most amount of money possible while those conditions persist.

Durr used a style best suited to exploit for financial gain the often weak competition in front of him and not necessarily to beat the entire player pool of high stakes players existing in the world at that time. Is this really that hard for someone posting on twoplustwo to comprehend or are you trying to be obtuse?

p.s- Hat-tip to Mason above, though I would say that hitters do change how they hit depending on where they are playing and who they are facing and different average and home run totals for each of the parks (some parks like Colorado because of altitude or Toronto because of windflow when the roof is closed are home run parks).

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08-06-2016 , 08:44 AM
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Yeah I always wonder this too, I never see it mentioned. It would be pretty ****ed up if Jungle didn't at least get his $500k back.
Would like to know this too.


Also, love the hair. Don't touch it.
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08-06-2016 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by restorativejustice
No amount of forcing will make your point valid.
Durr used a style best suited to exploit for financial gain the often weak competition in front of him and not necessarily to beat the entire player pool of high stakes players existing in the world at that time. Is this really that hard for someone posting on twoplustwo to comprehend or are you trying to be obtuse?
Um, no. I would argue that I am able to read and comprehend the English language, apparently better than some others.

What Mason wrote was: "I can't help but wonder if the strategies that durrr used just happened to be exceptionally good at extracting money from weak players." That's verbatim. I would argue that it is much, very much, more likely that Tom Dwan intentionally developed strategies that did very well against weak players but poorly against strong players, rather than his strategies "just happened" that way.

And by the way, the name is durrrr. Again with the reading.
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08-06-2016 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry Champlain
Doug what you are doing here is great. It's entertaining, funny, intelligent and as far as I can tell one of the only - I wanna say optimistic / positive thing about online poker left - not in the sense that it shows online poker is not dead (cuz it kind of is) but in the sense that you make it FUN and therefore it inherently is positive. Something we see little of around the nvg/2p2 streets recently. Positivity.

The most amazing thing about your game to me is not how well you play (debatable )
or how much you have made playing the game but how much FUN you still seem to have by simply flopping top two in a 2/4 game on ACR. How much fun you have competing...Still. And really just overall that you (GTO/Strat aside) just love playing the game.

It reminds me that in the end that is what this is. A game. And a fun one even if It is "dead" in terms of a way to make a decent steady income.

You had me at "we don't want him to have any bus change we want him to walk home". Such an HU barking thing to say.

Keep it up man. Props where props are due.
This has to be one of the nicest things anyone has said to me. I appreciate it man, and I do try to just have the best time I can when I play poker.

TBH, from small stakes to the nosebleeds I would always get super pumped up when I would nail a flop. It's just a lot more funny now having it be on twitch for a few hundred bucks with people watching.

Also I remember the bus fare comment, its one of my favorite lines .

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Would like to know this too.


Also, love the hair. Don't touch it.
Nice to get some positive feedback on this front. Thanks.
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08-06-2016 , 10:25 AM
You realize you spelled "poker news" wrong?
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08-06-2016 , 03:22 PM
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No he won't.
Dean gets OG respek and that's enough.
Same difference. Not here to argue semantics.
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08-06-2016 , 03:35 PM
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You realize you spelled "poker news" wrong?
lol,....... ice avatar.
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08-07-2016 , 04:30 AM
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You realize you spelled "poker news" wrong?
Trying to decide what level you are on.
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08-07-2016 , 01:21 PM
I'm no expert when it comes to escrowing but when Dwan is not putting his money into escrow, I would think that Ivey is the person to blame, more than Dwan? He's responsible for collecting the money, otherwise what's the point of using him as an independent third party in the first place...
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08-07-2016 , 01:39 PM
I wonder if tom dwan wakes up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat hearing hellmuths words, 'lets see if your around in 5 years'.

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08-07-2016 , 01:49 PM
difference being 5 yrs for a live pro is the same as like 3 months for an online pro
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08-07-2016 , 02:35 PM
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I'm no expert when it comes to escrowing but when Dwan is not putting his money into escrow, I would think that Ivey is the person to blame, more than Dwan? He's responsible for collecting the money, otherwise what's the point of using him as an independent third party in the first place...
Not gonna post much more on this but based on the endless liquidity they, (full tilt pro team,ie ivey/dur et al), had available to them at the snap of a finger.... these guys were basically playing high stakes poker/prop betting with unlimited play money whilst everyone else was staking real money.

Can you even begin to imagine the realm of where your mindset psyche would gravitate towards thinking the rest of your life is basically going to be like that?
-Millions of USDs in your Full Tilt account available at the click of a reload button, delivered in a millisecond, whilst in front of a pc in yellow and brown underpants. Invincible. I wouldn't have seen the need to escrow either with tha kinda God-Pass in my back pocket.

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08-09-2016 , 03:41 AM
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Trying to decide what level you are on.
Jk man, congrats on all the success...

Tanking is pathetic.
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08-11-2016 , 11:57 AM


0:50 - Bankroll Challenge Introduction
1:44 - Jason Somerville on CNBC debates nervous reverend about poker legislation
4:23 - Are typical rake schemes fair? Is there a better way?
8:59 - Bovada "sells" its poker room to Ignition Casino
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08-11-2016 , 12:20 PM
Doug looking much more professional this week, looks like the average 2+2er so i don't think there will be anymore negative hair comments
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08-11-2016 , 01:42 PM
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0:50 - Bankroll Challenge Introduction
1:44 - Jason Somerville on CNBC debates nervous reverend about poker legislation
4:23 - Are typical rake schemes fair? Is there a better way?
8:59 - Bovada "sells" its poker room to Ignition Casino
Hahaha Great Vid Doug Thanks (been going threw some personal stuff so haven't been around on twitch, but look forward to joining again, See You Soon . . .
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08-11-2016 , 03:54 PM
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Hahaha Great Vid Doug Thanks (been going threw some personal stuff so haven't been around on twitch, but look forward to joining again, See You Soon . . .
All good man! Will be streaming a bunch so you can stop by whenever.

I enjoyed making this weeks episode a lot, felt pretty strongly about all the topics!
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